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For what we expect of schools they are underfunded. Schools provide before and after care outside of normal hours, they provide all 3 meals to many students. C
by larrymyers 5y ago
For what we expect of schools they are underfunded. Schools provide before and after care outside of normal hours, they provide all 3 meals to many students. Counseling, social services, health care ... it's not just teachers in the classroom.
Now, if the US wanted to actually fix poverty and inequality dealing with the symptoms wouldn't roll down to the schools to deal with.
- Ensorceled 5y agoWe do all of that in Canada, for 3K per student less AND get much better results (at least on average).
- ipaddr 5y agoWhy do you think Canada gets a better results?
- Ensorceled 5y agoTo be clear, the results aren't great. We pay teachers more, we have pretty much no focus on elite athletics, less political mucking around in the actual education process.
- connectsnk 5y agoProbably can be attributed to huge asian and south asian immigrant population who put a very big emphasis on education in their families
- nick__m 5y agoYour theory doesn't explain Quebec scoring so high¹ in math in the 2018 PISA² test. https://www.schoolofpublicpolicy.sk.ca/research/publications/policy-brief/student-performance-in-pisa-2018.php https://www.schoolofpublicpolicy.sk.ca/research/publications... https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA-results_ENGLISH.png https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA-results_ENGLISH.png
- dzdt 5y agoExactly. The biggest problem with US schools is poverty. It isn't anything directly to do with the school system, but the school system is tasked with "leaving no child behind" when the thing holding many children back is poverty of their families.
- Mary-Jane 5y agoNegatory. Us shovels more funding per student into its public schools than almost any other country. That funding is spend poorly, mostly on administrative functions that no doubt demonstrate in great detail how great each school is. https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd
- rejectedandsad 5y agoAdmin bloat is very real but as the wealthiest country it makes sense we spend more on public education because we spend more on nearly everything.
- Retric 5y agoComparing countries by PPP doesn’t account for the cost of education between countries. A collage educated worker in Mexico is much cheaper than a collage educated worker in Luxembourg even accounting for PPP. In fact if you compare countries by Median household income PPP. You find a familiar ordering, Luxembourg 52,493, Norway 51,489, Sweden 50,514, Australia 46,555, Denmark 44,360, United States 43,585. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income Differences in scope between each country such as what pays for school lunch programs explains much of the difference.
- flavius29663 5y agoBut still, there isn't a lack of funding in the US, not when you compare it with every other developed country. Switzerland is not a cheaper country than the US, far from that. Still, being a teacher there is a highly respected profession, and a high school teacher can make 7-8000 per month (last time I spoke with a Swiss). They still pay less per student than the US. If you ask me, I'm going to guess that building large football practice fields with nigh lighting, driving buses on all the hills twice a day, paying 200k to non-teachers, these things all add up.