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Except I drink hundreds and hundreds of cups of coffee a day. When it takes 10 seconds every time to determine who's coffee it is, we need to come up with a new

Except I drink hundreds and hundreds of cups of coffee a day. When it takes 10 seconds every time to determine who's coffee it is, we need to come up with a new solution. Yeah this analogy blows as well. What it comes down to is old world technology spends a ton of time on error correction like this and it's an easy place to increase efficiency & speed for portable devices. It's going to keep happening, get used to it.

jarek 15y ago
Except it doesn't take 10 seconds. The time between the Galaxy Tab's proper DHCP discover and DHCP ACK was 0.653 seconds. You might notice a difference between that and the Mac's 0.031 seconds to DHCP-free link up if you blink fast. This conversation makes me want to block Apple devices from any and all devices I control. Because hey, such anti-social network behaviour is going to keep happening. Because it's not a big deal. Because you're worth it. Good thing the network layer doesn't support such, uh, experience-enhacing features.
- shinratdr 15y ago
  > Except it doesn't take 10 seconds. The time between the Galaxy Tab's proper DHCP discover and DHCP ACK was 0.653 seconds. You might notice a difference between that and the Mac's 0.031 seconds to DHCP-free link up if you blink fast. I unlock my phone and launch MobileSafari in less than a second, so it matters. > This conversation makes me want to block Apple devices from any and all devices I control. So do it then. If it actually enhances your experience, why compromise for users that don't matter to you? That's my point. You don't need to enforce network neutrality on your own AP. > Because hey, such anti-social network behaviour is going to keep happening. As long as router manufacturers keep being cheap and expiring DHCP leases after a reset, yes it will. > Because it's not a big deal. Because you're worth it. Damn straight. > Good thing the network layer doesn't support such, uh, experience-enhacing features. True, they should work on that. While their at it, add the ability to save DHCP tables before a reset and solve the actual problem here. Even for new network discovery, 10 seconds is unacceptable on a portable device. Reconnects should be as quick as possible, no exceptions. Sorry if you are offended that companies are actually working on improving this instead of insisting that it's good enough as it is.
  - jarek 15y ago
    Thanks for your reply.

jarek 15y ago

Except it doesn't take 10 seconds. The time between the Galaxy Tab's proper DHCP discover and DHCP ACK was 0.653 seconds. You might notice a difference between that and the Mac's 0.031 seconds to DHCP-free link up if you blink fast. This conversation makes me want to block Apple devices from any and all devices I control. Because hey, such anti-social network behaviour is going to keep happening. Because it's not a big deal. Because you're worth it. Good thing the network layer doesn't support such, uh, experience-enhacing features.

shinratdr 15y ago
> Except it doesn't take 10 seconds. The time between the Galaxy Tab's proper DHCP discover and DHCP ACK was 0.653 seconds. You might notice a difference between that and the Mac's 0.031 seconds to DHCP-free link up if you blink fast. I unlock my phone and launch MobileSafari in less than a second, so it matters. > This conversation makes me want to block Apple devices from any and all devices I control. So do it then. If it actually enhances your experience, why compromise for users that don't matter to you? That's my point. You don't need to enforce network neutrality on your own AP. > Because hey, such anti-social network behaviour is going to keep happening. As long as router manufacturers keep being cheap and expiring DHCP leases after a reset, yes it will. > Because it's not a big deal. Because you're worth it. Damn straight. > Good thing the network layer doesn't support such, uh, experience-enhacing features. True, they should work on that. While their at it, add the ability to save DHCP tables before a reset and solve the actual problem here. Even for new network discovery, 10 seconds is unacceptable on a portable device. Reconnects should be as quick as possible, no exceptions. Sorry if you are offended that companies are actually working on improving this instead of insisting that it's good enough as it is.
- jarek 15y ago
  Thanks for your reply.