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I must be living on the other side of the planet! Is there a place where keeping a cat outside is illegal? Poor cats :( I have a garden and sandbox for kids an

by croo 5y ago

I must be living on the other side of the planet! Is there a place where keeping a cat outside is illegal? Poor cats :( I have a garden and sandbox for kids and the soultion for cat poop was a dog. Is there a similiar research for dogs?

smilespray 5y ago
Poor dog. At least feed it proper dog food once in a while.
- remix2000 5y ago
  Comedy genius
- MisterTea 5y ago
  Until you have cleaned up cat litter dog vomit you will never know the true meaning of the word vile.
rich_sasha 5y ago
There are widely known effects of growing up with a dog on immune system strength and proneness to allergies [0]. I have never seen these associated with gut fauna, but the implication is that some of the 'dog gross' gets onto you and trains your system. [0] https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/features/health-benefits-of-pets#1 https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/featu...
- basq 5y ago
  How odd. I spent my childhood inna constant state of hayfever. A major revelation for me was going off to university, where I was no longer around the household dogs, and my allergies all but disapated.
DocTomoe 5y ago
Actually, keeping your cat inside should be the norm. Cats are, essentially, a highly invasive species that has been linked to massive decline and sometimes extinctions of local fauna.
- nix23 5y ago
  >Actually, keeping your cat inside should be the norm. Not in Europe, maybe new zealand. But in Europe we had/have wildcats until we destroyed the large forests. And nearly ever farmer depends on a cat to keep vermin's in check, if you have to keep your cat inside DONT BUY A CAT.
  - clydethefrog 5y ago
    The majority of cats in Europe is city cats that demolish the local bird and critter population. https://academic.oup.com/jel/article/32/3/391/5640440 https://academic.oup.com/jel/article/32/3/391/5640440
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      Still autochtonous (more or less) species. Old world birds evolved with them for thousands years and somehow they will not have problems to survive. We know to do more research about the cat effect on that fauna instead to just repeat one preliminary study. We need to know for example, if there is a percentage of those migrant birds allegedly chased by cats in US that just crashed against a window or were stunded by pesticides. The problem in that case is not the cat, is the glass pane, or the absence of trees. ............... Second point. Some scientists hypothesize that Toxoplasmosis remain in the body alive for years and is a chronic disease. We should however take in mind that this is not the main current of thinking. We know that parasites don't survive usually when end in the wrong host because immune response works "like this" and "like that" and because the temperature, organ structure or life cycle of the true host, matter for the parasite survival. I can't see why Toxoplasma should behave different that the other ten thousands of cases, or why the immune system should make an excepcion here.
      - pvaldes 5y ago
        -> We need to do more research -> Were stunTed Sleepy day, yawn.
    - Nursie 5y ago
teekert 5y ago
Where I live most people with dogs either let them poop in nature or clean it up. They certainly don't come into my garden to do their business. Telling someone to take a huge pet with huge responsibilities just to get rid of neighborhood cats pooping in their garden is a bit of a non-solution. But I guess, it's all funny when you own and love cats. But, please try to imagine what it can be like for your neighbors who only experience the down sides of your pet. To me there is no difference between (huge) rats or cats coming into my garden, except the government allows me to kill the rats.
- laurowyn 5y ago
  This, in my opinion, is why we can't have nice things. Calling for the death of any living thing that we disagree with isn't okay. And trapping an animal indoors where it can't exercise its natural tendencies is also a non-solution. I completely understand the want and need to protect your property from intruders, animal or human. But calling for the death of any and all animals that enter your property is borderline psychopathic IMO. There are humane ways to deter animals from entering your property. Something as simple as spraying a cat with water will deter it effectively - no need to murder it. Other options include putting down plastic spikes (that don't cause injury) on garden fences, growing certain plants which cats dislike the smell of, or even sprays that cats dislike. And for future reference; if your neighbours cats are pooping in your garden beds, keep the surface of the soil moist. Cats (generally) won't dig in wet soil, and will instead find somewhere else to go. And your plants will appreciate the extra water.
  - teekert 5y ago
    I'm not killing any animals, I wouldn't even kill the rats, I was just indicating the arbitrary line between vermin and pets. We have frogs, hedgehogs and in parts of our town sometimes even a fox (and they kill chickens if you don't close the hen). I think it's beautiful. Not the same as the high concentration of cats we have in our urban area. One of our neighbors has 4 cats, and they all shit in the area directly around her yard. And they are the reason I can't leave the chickens alone outside during the day. And believe me, nothing deters cats, me and my cat-less neighbors have tried everything under the sun. I splashed them with water multiple times already. Sure, it's all fun when the cat sits in a box and is cuddly. But it's a roaming predator that spreads excrement and disease. And if you don't cuddle with it regularly, that's all it is. And how can you tell me to keep my soil moist, do you know what an amount of work that is? Cat owners should come and keep my soil moist. Or, just keep their cat inside. If you love your animals, go live on a farm or in the woods. The city is no place for pets like cats.
bluefirebrand 5y ago
Yes, my city doesn't allow you to have outdoor cats, any pet cats must be kept inside. Owners can be fined.
- k12sosse 5y ago
  It's not my cat, but it is a cat. It comes over for dinner sometimes.
  - bluefirebrand 5y ago
    Well, if it's not your cat then it's going to a shelter.

by croo 5y ago

smilespray 5y ago

Poor dog. At least feed it proper dog food once in a while.

remix2000 5y ago
Comedy genius
MisterTea 5y ago
Until you have cleaned up cat litter dog vomit you will never know the true meaning of the word vile.

rich_sasha 5y ago

There are widely known effects of growing up with a dog on immune system strength and proneness to allergies [0]. I have never seen these associated with gut fauna, but the implication is that some of the 'dog gross' gets onto you and trains your system. [0] https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/features/health-benefits-of-pets#1 https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/featu...

basq 5y ago
How odd. I spent my childhood inna constant state of hayfever. A major revelation for me was going off to university, where I was no longer around the household dogs, and my allergies all but disapated.

DocTomoe 5y ago

Actually, keeping your cat inside should be the norm. Cats are, essentially, a highly invasive species that has been linked to massive decline and sometimes extinctions of local fauna.

nix23 5y ago
>Actually, keeping your cat inside should be the norm. Not in Europe, maybe new zealand. But in Europe we had/have wildcats until we destroyed the large forests. And nearly ever farmer depends on a cat to keep vermin's in check, if you have to keep your cat inside DONT BUY A CAT.
- clydethefrog 5y ago
  The majority of cats in Europe is city cats that demolish the local bird and critter population. https://academic.oup.com/jel/article/32/3/391/5640440 https://academic.oup.com/jel/article/32/3/391/5640440
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    Still autochtonous (more or less) species. Old world birds evolved with them for thousands years and somehow they will not have problems to survive. We know to do more research about the cat effect on that fauna instead to just repeat one preliminary study. We need to know for example, if there is a percentage of those migrant birds allegedly chased by cats in US that just crashed against a window or were stunded by pesticides. The problem in that case is not the cat, is the glass pane, or the absence of trees. ............... Second point. Some scientists hypothesize that Toxoplasmosis remain in the body alive for years and is a chronic disease. We should however take in mind that this is not the main current of thinking. We know that parasites don't survive usually when end in the wrong host because immune response works "like this" and "like that" and because the temperature, organ structure or life cycle of the true host, matter for the parasite survival. I can't see why Toxoplasma should behave different that the other ten thousands of cases, or why the immune system should make an excepcion here.
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      -> We need to do more research -> Were stunTed Sleepy day, yawn.
  - Nursie 5y ago

teekert 5y ago

Where I live most people with dogs either let them poop in nature or clean it up. They certainly don't come into my garden to do their business. Telling someone to take a huge pet with huge responsibilities just to get rid of neighborhood cats pooping in their garden is a bit of a non-solution. But I guess, it's all funny when you own and love cats. But, please try to imagine what it can be like for your neighbors who only experience the down sides of your pet. To me there is no difference between (huge) rats or cats coming into my garden, except the government allows me to kill the rats.

laurowyn 5y ago
This, in my opinion, is why we can't have nice things. Calling for the death of any living thing that we disagree with isn't okay. And trapping an animal indoors where it can't exercise its natural tendencies is also a non-solution. I completely understand the want and need to protect your property from intruders, animal or human. But calling for the death of any and all animals that enter your property is borderline psychopathic IMO. There are humane ways to deter animals from entering your property. Something as simple as spraying a cat with water will deter it effectively - no need to murder it. Other options include putting down plastic spikes (that don't cause injury) on garden fences, growing certain plants which cats dislike the smell of, or even sprays that cats dislike. And for future reference; if your neighbours cats are pooping in your garden beds, keep the surface of the soil moist. Cats (generally) won't dig in wet soil, and will instead find somewhere else to go. And your plants will appreciate the extra water.
- teekert 5y ago
  I'm not killing any animals, I wouldn't even kill the rats, I was just indicating the arbitrary line between vermin and pets. We have frogs, hedgehogs and in parts of our town sometimes even a fox (and they kill chickens if you don't close the hen). I think it's beautiful. Not the same as the high concentration of cats we have in our urban area. One of our neighbors has 4 cats, and they all shit in the area directly around her yard. And they are the reason I can't leave the chickens alone outside during the day. And believe me, nothing deters cats, me and my cat-less neighbors have tried everything under the sun. I splashed them with water multiple times already. Sure, it's all fun when the cat sits in a box and is cuddly. But it's a roaming predator that spreads excrement and disease. And if you don't cuddle with it regularly, that's all it is. And how can you tell me to keep my soil moist, do you know what an amount of work that is? Cat owners should come and keep my soil moist. Or, just keep their cat inside. If you love your animals, go live on a farm or in the woods. The city is no place for pets like cats.

bluefirebrand 5y ago

Yes, my city doesn't allow you to have outdoor cats, any pet cats must be kept inside. Owners can be fined.

k12sosse 5y ago
It's not my cat, but it is a cat. It comes over for dinner sometimes.
- bluefirebrand 5y ago
  Well, if it's not your cat then it's going to a shelter.