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So essentially Disney has some ML face model running around sending DMCA strikes? I really hope one day they do this to someone who can afford some stupid expe

So essentially Disney has some ML face model running around sending DMCA strikes? I really hope one day they do this to someone who can afford some stupid expensive team of lawyers to take them all the way through court for a false DMCA.

smt88 5y ago
If I'm not mistaken, there are no legal consequences for false DMCA strikes. They're unbelievably common, too.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
  > there are no legal consequences for false DMCA strikes On the contrary: filing a false DMCA takedown notice opens you up to perjury. ...even if no-one has been prosecuted yet: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/51541/has-anyone-been-convicted-of-perjury-for-false-dmca-takedown-notices https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/51541/has-anyone-bee... Instead what happens is media-companies strong-arm content-hosting companies (YouTube, etc) to let them file informal takedown notices that don't open themselves up to perjury with much weaker protections for innocent people caught up in the collateral damage - what does YouTube etc get from it? I suspect it's something they agreed to do to sweeten their deal to keep Vevo and other brands' content mirrored on YouTube.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    > what happens is media-companies strong-arm content-hosting companies (YouTube, etc) to let them file informal takedown notices Disney market cap: $315 billion Revenue in 2019: $70 billion Alphabet market cap: $1,700 billion Revenue in 2019: $162 billion What manner of "strong-arming" did you have in mind?
    - Hnrobert42 5y ago
      They aren’t going head-to-head like sumo wrestlers.
      - thaumasiotes 5y ago
        How are they going head-to-head? The whole idea of strong-arming is that you compel someone to do something by being stronger than they are. If that's not what's happening here, then what's happening here needs to be described some other way.
        Hnrobert42 5y ago
        Strong-arming does not require absolute strength superiority. It only requires sufficient strength to compel action.
    - ohyeshedid 5y ago
      The kind that starts with Disney pulling all its advertising from Google. Companies this size move a lot of money between them, and that becomes leverage in pissing matches.
    - coliveira 5y ago
      Disney may be smaller than Google, but they have a stronghold on media legislation. When it comes to media content, they know how to move the judicial system in their favor.
  - smt88 5y ago
    As I said, there are no legal consequences. I would say the same even if the company were prosecuted and fined a tolerably small amount of money (which could easily be millions for these types of firms).
patmcc 5y ago
More likely it's some intern looking up anything tagged "Loki" or similar.

smt88 5y ago

If I'm not mistaken, there are no legal consequences for false DMCA strikes. They're unbelievably common, too.

DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
> there are no legal consequences for false DMCA strikes On the contrary: filing a false DMCA takedown notice opens you up to perjury. ...even if no-one has been prosecuted yet: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/51541/has-anyone-been-convicted-of-perjury-for-false-dmca-takedown-notices https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/51541/has-anyone-bee... Instead what happens is media-companies strong-arm content-hosting companies (YouTube, etc) to let them file informal takedown notices that don't open themselves up to perjury with much weaker protections for innocent people caught up in the collateral damage - what does YouTube etc get from it? I suspect it's something they agreed to do to sweeten their deal to keep Vevo and other brands' content mirrored on YouTube.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  > what happens is media-companies strong-arm content-hosting companies (YouTube, etc) to let them file informal takedown notices Disney market cap: $315 billion Revenue in 2019: $70 billion Alphabet market cap: $1,700 billion Revenue in 2019: $162 billion What manner of "strong-arming" did you have in mind?
  - Hnrobert42 5y ago
    They aren’t going head-to-head like sumo wrestlers.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      How are they going head-to-head? The whole idea of strong-arming is that you compel someone to do something by being stronger than they are. If that's not what's happening here, then what's happening here needs to be described some other way.
      - Hnrobert42 5y ago
        Strong-arming does not require absolute strength superiority. It only requires sufficient strength to compel action.
  - ohyeshedid 5y ago
    The kind that starts with Disney pulling all its advertising from Google. Companies this size move a lot of money between them, and that becomes leverage in pissing matches.
  - coliveira 5y ago
    Disney may be smaller than Google, but they have a stronghold on media legislation. When it comes to media content, they know how to move the judicial system in their favor.
- smt88 5y ago
  As I said, there are no legal consequences. I would say the same even if the company were prosecuted and fined a tolerably small amount of money (which could easily be millions for these types of firms).

patmcc 5y ago

More likely it's some intern looking up anything tagged "Loki" or similar.