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We're discussing 2 distinctly different ad models: 1) Forced upon the user, rewards them in no way for their attention, harvests their data, auctions them off
by jonathansampson 5y ago
We're discussing 2 distinctly different ad models:
1) Forced upon the user, rewards them in no way for their attention, harvests their data, auctions them off to a sea of third-parties, and may in fact be dropping malicious scripts onto their machine for client-site execution.
and
2) An opt-in model which harvests no user data, rewards users with 70% of the revenue for the ads they choose to view (the user controls frequency caps), and gives everybody (not just the wealthy or well-off) a way to support content creators.
And you feel the second one is the "disturbing" model?
- smoldesu 5y agoAs much as I know you want to chime in here, I'm not going to play any games where you draw the goalposts. My current options are the following: 1. I can continue to use Vivaldi and uBlock origin as a completely open-source and so far flawless combo or 2. Go out of my way to switch to a browser with dubious privacy claims, a goddamn personal cryptocurrency and (the cherry on top) a developer who spent the better half of his afternoon tracking me down and asking me why I don't like their browser. I think I'm good.
- jonathansampson 5y agoHappy to hear that you're staying safe online. Nobody is tracking you down though. You and I happen to be on the same page, engaging in conversation. Check my comment history and you'll see that you make up only a small fraction of the individuals to whom I have responded. All the best to you though; sincerely wish you well.
- distrill 5y agoYou have more patience than I would have had in this thread. I guess it's your job to be patient though, or at least to deal with occasionally nasty elements of the community.
- rpdillon 5y agoIs Vivaldi open source? The only reason I don't use it is because it's closed, so this would be great news!
- mkl 5y agoNo. They publish their changes to Chromium's code, and kind of dodge answering that question: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/ https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-sou...
- mynameismon 5y agoThey do not publish any code relating to the UI, but the Chromium part is absolutely open: https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/ Also, Vivaldi is entirely moddable.
- kaba0 5y agoWhy Vivaldi over Firefox?
- dgan 5y agoI actually don't mind seeing ads for stuff I like, and the idea to redirect revenu to support content creators is appealing. Right now I see 0 ads, maybe will get fancy and try Brave for fun