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I feel like by "writing style" they meant "communication style".

DoreenMichele 5y ago
Personality and writing style or communication style tend to be related. Meeting in person exposes you to many factors more than just looks. Smell is a big thing that people are often not consciously aware of but if you are a heterosexual female and you meet a woman dressed as a man, you may subconsciously react to "This doesn't smell like a man. Something ain't right." Voice tone is another. It has nothing to do with communication style, but her voice just may not be deep enough for a heterosexual woman to go "Yeah, I would hit that." People seem to think it boils down to "looks" or something and that doesn't really fit with what I understand about life, the universe and everything.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  > Smell is a big thing that people are often not consciously aware of but if you are a heterosexual female and you meet a woman dressed as a man, you may subconsciously react to "This doesn't smell like a man. Something ain't right." No comments on smell were noted, but she did get comments about not being hairy.
  - DoreenMichele 5y ago
    Commenting on smell tends to not be socially acceptable and people are often not consciously aware of it. Hairiness is definitely a gender difference and helps people sort the boys from the girls, so to speak.
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    - dumpsterdiver 5y ago
      Not only that, but sensing pheromones via the olfactory system is both a very subtle and primal experience.
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  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    I thought they meant pheromones.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702?asin=0143038702&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1 https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/d... Based on this cover, I would have thought it was a very gender neutral looking person, and probably a lot less masculine if she wasn't frowning like that. But yeah, there's a huge difference between not being masculine enough vs. not being obviously a man.
  - DoreenMichele 5y ago
    The first photo reads to me as "clearly a woman" and based on that photo I have trouble imagining she actually passed for male. The second photo reads to me as "clearly a loser with no self esteem who is going to cry on my shoulder." I can imagine the second photo passing as male but not in a good way. There are subtle body language differences between men and women and that may be a factor. I'm tall for a woman. I've had very short hair for like fifteen years. It didn't initially get me mistaken for male. After being homeless for a year, people began calling me "sir" if they initially saw me from the back. (I would turn around and they would apologize for their error.) That was partly due to clothing but probably also my body language changed in ways I was not conscious of. There are myriad subtle details that help us distinguish male from female. It isn't any one thing. Edit: I will add her hair is hair that is short for a woman but on the long side for a man. Men with long hair are often bearded. They have hair all over. The photos are almost an uncanny valley in terms of trying to look like a man. Like she didn't quite get it but thought she did.

Personality and writing style or communication style tend to be related. Meeting in person exposes you to many factors more than just looks. Smell is a big thing that people are often not consciously aware of but if you are a heterosexual female and you meet a woman dressed as a man, you may subconsciously react to "This doesn't smell like a man. Something ain't right." Voice tone is another. It has nothing to do with communication style, but her voice just may not be deep enough for a heterosexual woman to go "Yeah, I would hit that." People seem to think it boils down to "looks" or something and that doesn't really fit with what I understand about life, the universe and everything.

thaumasiotes 5y ago
> Smell is a big thing that people are often not consciously aware of but if you are a heterosexual female and you meet a woman dressed as a man, you may subconsciously react to "This doesn't smell like a man. Something ain't right." No comments on smell were noted, but she did get comments about not being hairy.
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  Commenting on smell tends to not be socially acceptable and people are often not consciously aware of it. Hairiness is definitely a gender difference and helps people sort the boys from the girls, so to speak.
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  - dumpsterdiver 5y ago
    Not only that, but sensing pheromones via the olfactory system is both a very subtle and primal experience.
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- pseudalopex 5y ago
  I thought they meant pheromones.
spywaregorilla 5y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702?asin=0143038702&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1 https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/d... Based on this cover, I would have thought it was a very gender neutral looking person, and probably a lot less masculine if she wasn't frowning like that. But yeah, there's a huge difference between not being masculine enough vs. not being obviously a man.
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  The first photo reads to me as "clearly a woman" and based on that photo I have trouble imagining she actually passed for male. The second photo reads to me as "clearly a loser with no self esteem who is going to cry on my shoulder." I can imagine the second photo passing as male but not in a good way. There are subtle body language differences between men and women and that may be a factor. I'm tall for a woman. I've had very short hair for like fifteen years. It didn't initially get me mistaken for male. After being homeless for a year, people began calling me "sir" if they initially saw me from the back. (I would turn around and they would apologize for their error.) That was partly due to clothing but probably also my body language changed in ways I was not conscious of. There are myriad subtle details that help us distinguish male from female. It isn't any one thing. Edit: I will add her hair is hair that is short for a woman but on the long side for a man. Men with long hair are often bearded. They have hair all over. The photos are almost an uncanny valley in terms of trying to look like a man. Like she didn't quite get it but thought she did.