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The evidence that radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities is overwhelming, and the evidence that these radicals are in the process of

by sreque 5y ago

The evidence that radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities is overwhelming, and the evidence that these radicals are in the process of taking over secondary education is also readily available for anyone who is interested. If you are actually looking for some eyewitness accounts, Jordan Peterson has many podcasts where he interviews specific people that have experienced the ideological takeover themselves, including: * Yeonmi Park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yqa-SdJtT4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yqa-SdJtT4 * Dr. Rima Azar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIw8mH7ZpFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIw8mH7ZpFY * Bret Weinstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_gW4VWZ5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_gW4VWZ5c He has also interviewed one person who lost his job fighting the takeover in high school: * Paul Rossi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQBegyQP8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQBegyQP8A He's also interviewed a self-identified liberal and former employee of New York Times that witnessed the takeover at the Times. Starting at minute 8 the conversation diverges into talking about her experience at University. * Bari Weiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFTA9MJZ4KY&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFTA9MJZ4KY&t=12s Bari Weiss says it herself in this podcast, loosely quoted since I don't remember it exactly: If you as a liberal can't see the danger in what is happening, then you have your blinders on. I would say the same holds true of people who can't see the takeover in education, which is already mostly complete. Edit: I found the Bari Weiss quote at 43:06: "I have to be honest. At this point, if one can't see the way that this language has been hijacked and used as a kind of trojan horse strategy to smuggle in a hardened, zero-sum identity politics view of the world, to smuggle in a view of the world in which we have collective guilt or collective innocence literally based on the circumstances of our birth, that smuggle in a deeply anti-capitalist position, to smuggle in essentially a leftist illiberalism, then, I'm sorry. You have blinders on! The evidence is so overwhelming at this point.... I think it's because admitting that's true, is extremely psychologically scary, and socially scary, if you are a liberal."

wolverine876 5y ago
There's no evidence in the parent, just the opinions of a few political actors. > radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities Ironically, this uses techniques from the OP. It's an emotional appeal - calling people radicals, catastrophizing, etc. - but there's no evidence and really no information. Hyperbole eliminates information; it's like screaming 'we're all going to die!'.
- sreque 5y ago
  If you don't consider these eyewitness accounts as evidence, then I can only assume you have your blinders on. It is very important to note that these people you dismiss as "political actors" were historically apolitical; they weren't active at all in politics, and many even identified more as liberals or democrats. They only became more active as they bore personal witness to the evil ideologies being perpetuated in our society. Bari Weiss and Jordan Peterson, two historically liberal, well-educated people, discuss what they consider far and away to be the greatest threat to Western Civilization. and guess what? It's not Trump. It's not white supremacists. It's not racism. It's not January 6 rioters. It's not people who refuse to get COVID vaccines. It's not global warming. It's not even China or Russia or Islamic terrorism. It is the self-destruction of our culture at the hands of leftist ideologues that seek its destruction in order to replace it with a new, far worse culture. I could send you a ton more links with evidence, but I have a feeling you would find a reason to dismiss all of them: * https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-neo-marxist-takeover-of-our-universities https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-neo-marxist-takeover... "The domination of US universities by the left, particularly in the humanities and social sciences, is well documented. In 2016 a survey carried out by Econ Journal Watch looked at the voter registration of faculty members at 40 leading US universities in the fields of economics, history, law, psychology and journalism/communications. It found that Democrats outnumber Republicans by an average of 11.5 to one. In psychology, the ratio is 17.4 to one; in history, 33.5 to one." * https://fcpp.org/2020/11/27/how-marxists-take-over-and-what-to-do-about-it/ https://fcpp.org/2020/11/27/how-marxists-take-over-and-what-... * https://www.amazon.com/Professors-Most-Dangerous-Academics-America/dp/1596985259/ https://www.amazon.com/Professors-Most-Dangerous-Academics-A...
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > If you don't consider these eyewitness accounts as evidence, then I can only assume you have your blinders on. Not only does that violate HN guidelines, and is irrational and ignorant, it's just propaganda against me. Have a nice day.
    - sreque 5y ago
ttctciyf 5y ago
Jordan Peterson is the worst kind of bloviating bullshitter pushing divisive bad faith talking points designed to muddy and degrade debate, in my ever so humble opinion.
- sreque 5y ago
  I don't agree with everything Jordan says. In fact, as a religious person, I find his attempts to redefine religion as a form of atheism with psychology-based respect for religious instinct to be offensive. But, I don't believe a single thing you just said. I believe Jordan has and continues to do more good than I ever will in 100 of my own lifetimes, despite his flaws.

by sreque 5y ago

wolverine876 5y ago

There's no evidence in the parent, just the opinions of a few political actors. > radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities Ironically, this uses techniques from the OP. It's an emotional appeal - calling people radicals, catastrophizing, etc. - but there's no evidence and really no information. Hyperbole eliminates information; it's like screaming 'we're all going to die!'.

sreque 5y ago
If you don't consider these eyewitness accounts as evidence, then I can only assume you have your blinders on. It is very important to note that these people you dismiss as "political actors" were historically apolitical; they weren't active at all in politics, and many even identified more as liberals or democrats. They only became more active as they bore personal witness to the evil ideologies being perpetuated in our society. Bari Weiss and Jordan Peterson, two historically liberal, well-educated people, discuss what they consider far and away to be the greatest threat to Western Civilization. and guess what? It's not Trump. It's not white supremacists. It's not racism. It's not January 6 rioters. It's not people who refuse to get COVID vaccines. It's not global warming. It's not even China or Russia or Islamic terrorism. It is the self-destruction of our culture at the hands of leftist ideologues that seek its destruction in order to replace it with a new, far worse culture. I could send you a ton more links with evidence, but I have a feeling you would find a reason to dismiss all of them: * https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-neo-marxist-takeover-of-our-universities https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-neo-marxist-takeover... "The domination of US universities by the left, particularly in the humanities and social sciences, is well documented. In 2016 a survey carried out by Econ Journal Watch looked at the voter registration of faculty members at 40 leading US universities in the fields of economics, history, law, psychology and journalism/communications. It found that Democrats outnumber Republicans by an average of 11.5 to one. In psychology, the ratio is 17.4 to one; in history, 33.5 to one." * https://fcpp.org/2020/11/27/how-marxists-take-over-and-what-to-do-about-it/ https://fcpp.org/2020/11/27/how-marxists-take-over-and-what-... * https://www.amazon.com/Professors-Most-Dangerous-Academics-America/dp/1596985259/ https://www.amazon.com/Professors-Most-Dangerous-Academics-A...
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > If you don't consider these eyewitness accounts as evidence, then I can only assume you have your blinders on. Not only does that violate HN guidelines, and is irrational and ignorant, it's just propaganda against me. Have a nice day.
  - sreque 5y ago

ttctciyf 5y ago

Jordan Peterson is the worst kind of bloviating bullshitter pushing divisive bad faith talking points designed to muddy and degrade debate, in my ever so humble opinion.

sreque 5y ago
I don't agree with everything Jordan says. In fact, as a religious person, I find his attempts to redefine religion as a form of atheism with psychology-based respect for religious instinct to be offensive. But, I don't believe a single thing you just said. I believe Jordan has and continues to do more good than I ever will in 100 of my own lifetimes, despite his flaws.