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Yes. Private school do have 'propaganda' - but that's perfectly ok if it aligns with the parent's wishes. As the parents, we have the right to chose how our chi

Yes. Private school do have 'propaganda' - but that's perfectly ok if it aligns with the parent's wishes. As the parents, we have the right to chose how our children are raised.

reedjosh 5y ago
> As the parents, we have the right to chose how our children are raised. Downvoted for raising your children as you'd like. Lol, that's HN for ya.
- HWR_14 5y ago
  Children aren't property. It's perfectly reasonable for society to take children away from parents. We do it for various forms of abuse. We obviously want to be careful, but I see no reason to allow 14-year-olds to get married off by their parents to adult men in their cult. Nor do I think it's okay to change that to the parents let their 14-year-olds get groomed for 4 years either.
  - Fellshard 5y ago
    > It's perfectly reasonable for society to take children away from parents. The way you state this makes it sound like this should be the /norm/, though, as opposed to only being applied in concrete exigent circumstances such as the ones you name.
    - Ensorceled 5y ago
      While it is not the /norm/, it is quite common: almost 150K children are removed from their parents and put into foster care a year. Exigent circumstances happen quite a lot.
      - Fellshard 5y ago
        What's that look like per capita? That's still an extraordinarily small minority.
        Ensorceled 5y ago
        There are about 74 million children in the US and about 450K of them are in foster care and at least as many more have been moved to relatives by CPS (grandparents, aunts/uncles, older siblings etc.) So well over 1% maybe as high as 2% ... not an extraordinarily small minority.
  - reedjosh 5y ago
    Okay, but if they send their children to christian school (I'm actually not religious myself), is that too much indoctrination for you, or is it okay for people to raise their children with their own views and culture?
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      I personally think that all children should be raised under a common, secular curriculum. Then people can send their children to Sunday school or communicate their religious/political values.
    - r00fus 5y ago
      As long as they are raised to be good citizens. Being a citizen of the US confers rights and privileges, it should require exposure to some basic knowledge as well. Schools that teach against known facts like evolution are a net negative.
  - AlexTWithBeard 5y ago
    Children aren't property. Children are responsibility and responsibility must come with certain rights.
Broken_Hippo 5y ago
I don't know. Sure, you are raising your kids, but they are going to be adults, some with kids, some without - and that is going to require some information. I think it is a grave injustice to children to, for example, not introduce them to a variety of religions so that they can better understand folks they might run into. Same for not having comprehensive sex education: It matters little to me that a parent thinks some sex - or birth control - is a sin: The child still needs to learn about it so that they can make good decisions even if it goes against the parents' beliefs. Some parents want girls to just learn to cook and clean, and demand an emphasis on such classes. And so on. I'm not convinced it is entirely your right to do as you please with your children: To me, it is only OK so long it is healthy for the child and doesn't infringe on their rights... which they should have, and the US refuses to give.
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Yes. Private school do have 'propaganda' - but that's perfectly ok if it aligns with the parent's wishes. As the parents, we have the right to chose how our children are raised.

reedjosh 5y ago

> As the parents, we have the right to chose how our children are raised. Downvoted for raising your children as you'd like. Lol, that's HN for ya.

HWR_14 5y ago
Children aren't property. It's perfectly reasonable for society to take children away from parents. We do it for various forms of abuse. We obviously want to be careful, but I see no reason to allow 14-year-olds to get married off by their parents to adult men in their cult. Nor do I think it's okay to change that to the parents let their 14-year-olds get groomed for 4 years either.
- Fellshard 5y ago
  > It's perfectly reasonable for society to take children away from parents. The way you state this makes it sound like this should be the /norm/, though, as opposed to only being applied in concrete exigent circumstances such as the ones you name.
  - Ensorceled 5y ago
    While it is not the /norm/, it is quite common: almost 150K children are removed from their parents and put into foster care a year. Exigent circumstances happen quite a lot.
    - Fellshard 5y ago
      What's that look like per capita? That's still an extraordinarily small minority.
      - Ensorceled 5y ago
        There are about 74 million children in the US and about 450K of them are in foster care and at least as many more have been moved to relatives by CPS (grandparents, aunts/uncles, older siblings etc.) So well over 1% maybe as high as 2% ... not an extraordinarily small minority.
- reedjosh 5y ago
  Okay, but if they send their children to christian school (I'm actually not religious myself), is that too much indoctrination for you, or is it okay for people to raise their children with their own views and culture?
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    I personally think that all children should be raised under a common, secular curriculum. Then people can send their children to Sunday school or communicate their religious/political values.
  - r00fus 5y ago
    As long as they are raised to be good citizens. Being a citizen of the US confers rights and privileges, it should require exposure to some basic knowledge as well. Schools that teach against known facts like evolution are a net negative.
- AlexTWithBeard 5y ago
  Children aren't property. Children are responsibility and responsibility must come with certain rights.

Broken_Hippo 5y ago

I don't know. Sure, you are raising your kids, but they are going to be adults, some with kids, some without - and that is going to require some information. I think it is a grave injustice to children to, for example, not introduce them to a variety of religions so that they can better understand folks they might run into. Same for not having comprehensive sex education: It matters little to me that a parent thinks some sex - or birth control - is a sin: The child still needs to learn about it so that they can make good decisions even if it goes against the parents' beliefs. Some parents want girls to just learn to cook and clean, and demand an emphasis on such classes. And so on. I'm not convinced it is entirely your right to do as you please with your children: To me, it is only OK so long it is healthy for the child and doesn't infringe on their rights... which they should have, and the US refuses to give.

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