I think he has said a few times, almost certainly also mentioned in "the lost interview". He usually says something like: They showed me three things are Xerox

I think he has said a few times, almost certainly also mentioned in "the lost interview". He usually says something like: They showed me three things are Xerox Parc, first, the windows mouse graphic interface, second, networked computing and the third thing I didn't notice at the time which is object oriented software. Then he mentions how at Apple they did the first, and the internet is the second. At Next, they are doing the third, and then brings up objects. It was during the NEXT era. Here is the lost interview: https://youtu.be/Jk4dzQs859M https://youtu.be/Jk4dzQs859M But, as I said, I think he has also said it at other places.