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That has also been my experience. When I was 16, I cleaned dishes in a restaurant for a few weeks, for a few hundred bucks total. That was the most exhausting

by manmal 5y ago

That has also been my experience. When I was 16, I cleaned dishes in a restaurant for a few weeks, for a few hundred bucks total. That was the most exhausting job I ever had, and the other folks there didn’t treat me respectfully at all. Cheap lighting, standing upright all day, handling _huge_ pots that the cook burnt („There, I made an oopsie, clean this up before you go“) - I can’t recommend that. I was not supposed to be in contact with customers either, so didn’t even get to know anybody. If you‘d press me to find anything good about that job, it’s probably that I can now appreciate the hard work many people have to do in order to make rent. Compare that to my freelance iOS dev job where my worst complaint is that I sit in too many meetings.

etempleton 5y ago
Same. As a teenager I was on my feet all day as a server and bused my own tables as well. It was exhausting then and I was an athlete. Work hard when you are young so you can be lazy later if you want. Maybe you will always work hard because you like it, but give yourself the option.
- akiselev 5y ago
  > Work hard when you are young so you can be lazy later if you want. Maybe you will always work hard because you like it, but give yourself the option. Great advice. Start really early with honors/AP English classes and you might not even have to work that hard at all. Nothing teaches you to bullshit your way to success better than high school literature classes, which is a critical skill for lazy but productive engineers/managers who need to communicate their contributions instead of prostrating "work ethic."
apozem 5y ago
Hard agree. I will never have a job as hard as the summers I spent working food service or cleaning pools. You had to be on your feet all day for pennies, working fast to handle annoying customers. Software is no comparison. You get to sit in a nice chair and listen to music all day while you essentially do puzzles.

by manmal 5y ago

etempleton 5y ago

Same. As a teenager I was on my feet all day as a server and bused my own tables as well. It was exhausting then and I was an athlete. Work hard when you are young so you can be lazy later if you want. Maybe you will always work hard because you like it, but give yourself the option.

akiselev 5y ago
> Work hard when you are young so you can be lazy later if you want. Maybe you will always work hard because you like it, but give yourself the option. Great advice. Start really early with honors/AP English classes and you might not even have to work that hard at all. Nothing teaches you to bullshit your way to success better than high school literature classes, which is a critical skill for lazy but productive engineers/managers who need to communicate their contributions instead of prostrating "work ethic."

apozem 5y ago

Hard agree. I will never have a job as hard as the summers I spent working food service or cleaning pools. You had to be on your feet all day for pennies, working fast to handle annoying customers. Software is no comparison. You get to sit in a nice chair and listen to music all day while you essentially do puzzles.