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Papers like these are almost comedic if they weren't depressing. What this paper describes is real but also a meme. Incel hate communities are surprisingly larg
by devwastaken 5y ago
Papers like these are almost comedic if they weren't depressing. What this paper describes is real but also a meme. Incel hate communities are surprisingly large and tend to badly fly under the radar by expressing opinions through memes, which may make them seem more of a 'joke'. But the actual commentators on that meme then express the actual intent of it, as seen on Reddit, youtube, the various chans, etc.
I don't see this phenomenon getting better. It's very unpopular but in my experience some of the points raised by incel communities aren't wrong. The problem is they take something that may be correct and then act on it in entirely the wrong way. For example, Tinder, POF, and other "dating" apps are overwhelmingly comprised on Men seeking Women [0], with women seeking something like the top 10% of men. In market terms this means there's a severe problem in supply/demand wherein Women have plenty of supply and are more concerned about quality. Anecdotally I've seen this on Fetlife. If you have a PFP of a woman and show up on the listings you'll be bombarded with messages of sexual offerings. If you have a man PFP you will have to put in significant work to build your reputation, talk to people, and have the physical qualities necessary.
What some incels fail to realize, and others actively exploit, is that all those offerings and attention have risk attached to them. If by telling a man "no thank you" you're verbally abused, slandered about, stalked, harassed, and overall treated as if you are required to serve this man - is that really "privledged"? It can be in a small minority, but from what I've seen the average person is not at all prepared to deal with that and you end up being abused simply for being a women.
One of the most concerning parts of Inceldom though is how much younger men comprise it. Why is it young men, and not men in their 30's-40's no longer youthfully attractive? Perhaps I'm wrong and I would like to be, but I have seen an uptick in young women for older men. I know that much of it starts from the internet, where older men are essentially legal predators whom know all the right words to say and have the resources to carry it out. Perhaps this problem isn't new though - I talked to some older women about this and have gotten largely the same response: "Men appreciate with age, women depreciate.".
I don't believe inceldom is entirely artificial, and if we ignore the reasons for it out of hand we're going to see a natural result where it just continues to increase because people don't want to understand why nor address it. If someone is an individual whom struggles with the problems above, they are going to be more inclined to join inceldom if everyone outside of it dismisses the root causes and labels it.
These are just my broken opinions, this subject is far larger and can be an entire book.
[0]https://www.netimperative.com/2019/04/05/online-dating-trends-men-outnumber-women-on-tinder-by-9-to-1-while-grinder-wins-for-age-diversity/ https://www.netimperative.com/2019/04/05/online-dating-trend...