4 ms·
Just know that largely groups like Incel, MGTOW, and PUA aren't doing men any favors. Any progressive movement will have toxic sects, but that shouldn't negate
by TheCapn 5y ago
Just know that largely groups like Incel, MGTOW, and PUA aren't doing men any favors. Any progressive movement will have toxic sects, but that shouldn't negate the entire movement altogether.
There are better groups out there such as the Men's Liberation (https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/) which focus more on positive change rather than misogyny or negatives that should be encouraged for those seeking support.
- klipt 5y agoThe problem is that even just advocating for things like more resources for male domestic violence victims, is seen as taking away resources from female victims. So it will be viewed as misogynist no matter who does it. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men#Legal_activism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men#... So Men's Liberation groups can't actually pursue any concrete advocacy for men without being accused of misogyny, which makes their effectiveness highly limited. Basically you can choose optics (which Men's Liberation groups choose) or efficacy (which the group that won that lawsuit on behalf of male domestic violence victims chose) but it seems very difficult to balance both in one group. So maybe both groups are necessary.