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The above comment has so many levels of generalisation and misconceptions that I wouldn't even know where to start debating it. Not all fruit nor vegetables ar

The above comment has so many levels of generalisation and misconceptions that I wouldn't even know where to start debating it. Not all fruit nor vegetables are healthy, unless you consider the healthy ones only (how do you determine that scientifically?) then it's just nonsense. Also coffee is a seed first, and seeds in general are potentially the most toxic, as evolution would prefer seeds to grow, instead of being eaten. The fact that the toxic compounds of a seed give us a nice buzz and don't kill us instead is a pretty nice coincidence. And let's not even go into the "are fruits really healthy?" debate which is long, as reality is often more complex than quick slogans such as "eat colours and be healthy."

dcolkitt 5y ago
> Not all fruit nor vegetables are healthy, Find a single peer-reviewed study that finds any widely consumed vegetable or fruit has negative correlation with all-cause mortality. > Also coffee is a seed first, and seeds in general are potentially the most toxic, Legumes, which as a class are seeds, have a very strong inverse relationship with all-cause mortality.[1] There's zero empirical reason to believe that seeds are unhealthy, and very strong reason to believe that seeds, as with any plant-based food, are widely health-promoting. > And let's not even go into the "are fruits really healthy?" debate which is long No it's not. Fruit consumption is strongly associated with lower all-cause mortality. Even controlling for vegetable consumption.[2] The science is settled. Denying that fruit consumption is health-promoting is about as scientifically illiterate as denying that cigarette smoothing is unhealthy. [1]https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2017/8450618/ https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2017/8450618/ [2]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5837264/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5837264/
- Tagbert 5y ago
  Many Legumes are f toxic. Don’t try to eat Sweet Peas. Before domestication beans had to be treated by soaking to leach out the toxic compounds. They only became benign through domestication selecting less toxic versions.
  - sjg007 5y ago
    This is why you cook vegetables like potatoes and don't eat the green ones or sprouted ones.
- xupybd 5y ago
  You're right eating more plants is generally better for your health than the average western diet. But not all seeds are good for you. Please don't eat apple seeds.

dcolkitt 5y ago

> Not all fruit nor vegetables are healthy, Find a single peer-reviewed study that finds any widely consumed vegetable or fruit has negative correlation with all-cause mortality. > Also coffee is a seed first, and seeds in general are potentially the most toxic, Legumes, which as a class are seeds, have a very strong inverse relationship with all-cause mortality.[1] There's zero empirical reason to believe that seeds are unhealthy, and very strong reason to believe that seeds, as with any plant-based food, are widely health-promoting. > And let's not even go into the "are fruits really healthy?" debate which is long No it's not. Fruit consumption is strongly associated with lower all-cause mortality. Even controlling for vegetable consumption.[2] The science is settled. Denying that fruit consumption is health-promoting is about as scientifically illiterate as denying that cigarette smoothing is unhealthy. [1]https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2017/8450618/ https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2017/8450618/ [2]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5837264/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5837264/

Tagbert 5y ago
Many Legumes are f toxic. Don’t try to eat Sweet Peas. Before domestication beans had to be treated by soaking to leach out the toxic compounds. They only became benign through domestication selecting less toxic versions.
- sjg007 5y ago
  This is why you cook vegetables like potatoes and don't eat the green ones or sprouted ones.
xupybd 5y ago
You're right eating more plants is generally better for your health than the average western diet. But not all seeds are good for you. Please don't eat apple seeds.