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Couldn't agree with this sentiment more. It's always going to be a money and time pit when you need to outsource to fix any problems. If you don't know code,

Couldn't agree with this sentiment more. It's always going to be a money and time pit when you need to outsource to fix any problems. If you don't know code, hire someone on your team who does. :)

codingdave 5y ago
> when you need to outsource to fix any problems. Yeah, but that would be a pretty crappy low-code platform if when things went wrong, they did not handle it, and instead told their customers to go hire coders.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Someone's getting paid to fix your program, whether it's a "computer science consultant" or their premium service package (probably $3,995/ticket, if it's anything like how Microsoft/Canonical runs their business).
- bonestormii_ 5y ago
  It's easy to say that, but what do you expect the platform to provide? If the platform makes operating your business so trivial that they provide all functionality baked into the product, I would suggest that your business may lack novelty, and therefore it may also lack competitiveness. "No code" doesn't mean you don't have to implement things yourself. You are simply limited to the platform's baked in abstractions in exchange for "not having to write code". Your services may eventually not map well to the capabilities of the platform, and it may cause problems. In such cases, the easiest and likely best solution is to offload functionality to a private server running custom code that interacts with the interfaces to the existing platform. The whole "no code" thing is spun as "empowering entrepreneurs", but there is a philosophy underlying it that implementation details don't matter, and programmers aren't needed. It may be true for some businesses who are in non-technical sectors, but if you are selling digital services themselves "no code" will only take you so far.
- squeaky-clean 5y ago
  In my experience this is the case for every low-code platform once you try anything more advanced then their most basic tutorials and use-cases.

Couldn't agree with this sentiment more. It's always going to be a money and time pit when you need to outsource to fix any problems. If you don't know code, hire someone on your team who does. :)

codingdave 5y ago

> when you need to outsource to fix any problems. Yeah, but that would be a pretty crappy low-code platform if when things went wrong, they did not handle it, and instead told their customers to go hire coders.

smoldesu 5y ago
Someone's getting paid to fix your program, whether it's a "computer science consultant" or their premium service package (probably $3,995/ticket, if it's anything like how Microsoft/Canonical runs their business).
bonestormii_ 5y ago
It's easy to say that, but what do you expect the platform to provide? If the platform makes operating your business so trivial that they provide all functionality baked into the product, I would suggest that your business may lack novelty, and therefore it may also lack competitiveness. "No code" doesn't mean you don't have to implement things yourself. You are simply limited to the platform's baked in abstractions in exchange for "not having to write code". Your services may eventually not map well to the capabilities of the platform, and it may cause problems. In such cases, the easiest and likely best solution is to offload functionality to a private server running custom code that interacts with the interfaces to the existing platform. The whole "no code" thing is spun as "empowering entrepreneurs", but there is a philosophy underlying it that implementation details don't matter, and programmers aren't needed. It may be true for some businesses who are in non-technical sectors, but if you are selling digital services themselves "no code" will only take you so far.
squeaky-clean 5y ago
In my experience this is the case for every low-code platform once you try anything more advanced then their most basic tutorials and use-cases.