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Kind of surprised Andrej has time to work on anything besides self-driving cars

dswalter 5y ago
It's maybe an ... interesting sign that someone with substantial liquidity from tesla shares at this point in history is apparently finding cryptocurrency an enjoyable diversion/investment vehicle?
js4 5y ago
I was thinking the same thing.
yumraj 5y ago
Maybe he is losing faith in self driving cars and is looking for an alternate field.
- malux85 5y ago
  Diversification of interests accelerates creativity due to axiomatic discovery and reinforcement, idea plasticity and abstraction practice. Other interests are not just important, they are necessary.
  - GeorgeTirebiter 5y ago
    Right. All really smart people 'play'. Famously, Feynman was spinning plates in the Caltech cafeteria on his fingertip, which gave him the ideas that ended up winning him a Nobel prize. Play is important for children of all ages.
    - karpathy 5y ago
      Surely You're Joking is one of my all time favorite books, for sure.
karpathy 5y ago
https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1407378320551923718 https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1407378320551923718 :) But more seriously, I just really love learning and worked on this on the side, in small increments in between the cracks, and purely from interest for fun.
- adamnemecek 5y ago
  How many hours a day do you work? And what does your daily schedule look like?
  - karpathy 5y ago
    I count myself very fortunate that I find the word "work" very confusing.
    - adamnemecek 5y ago
      I know what you mean but I still think that there’s a number you can give. Like this counts as work. What does your average daily schedule look like?
      - exdsq 5y ago
        I'm interested in this too Karpathy, would love to know. Not sure why you're being down voted Adam.
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- cs702 5y ago
  It's awesome to see you doing this, and taking the time to respond here! Ditto for your (re)implementation of transformers a while back, which you clearly worked on for fun as a side project too. The world would be such a better place if every executive in charge of technology at a large company engaged in these kinds of side projects for fun on a regular basis :-) If I may, let me ask you an unrelated question that just 'popped in my head' only now but is related to your recent presentation at CVPR: Are you guys at Tesla fusing video with audio data for self-driving? Just curious. I ask because (a) sound waves at frequencies detectable by the human ear appear to be quite important for both routine and edge-case situations (e.g., sounds of other vehicles braking/screeching/accelerating/passing, sirens of ambulances/police cars/fire trucks, bursts of honks from other vehicles, people suddenly shouting/screaming nearby), and (b) audio and video signals are already synchronized, so I imagine fusing them should be more straightforward (e.g., there's already some research out there on applying deep learning to video clips with audio).
adflux 5y ago
Haven't seen tesla do much self driving in practice yet. 3 years late now?
- plebianRube 5y ago
  No, same timeline they state every year - FSD by the end of the year.
  - papito 5y ago
    Sometimes I actually find more energy for working on an endless slog at work when I have an exciting side project going. Easy to get caught up in the side project, however.
canada_dry 5y ago
Related... his recent presentation at CVPR is quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL_rCK59ZI&t=28286s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL_rCK59ZI&t=28286s
mzs 5y ago
His boss has a passing interest…
fpgaminer 5y ago
Nobody can work 100% of the time, everyone needs breaks. But some engineers take breaks from their regular work by doing other "work". I find it bizarre that there are so many comments making this out to be some kind of dire situation where he's working on other things because Tesla is sinking or something. Is working on hobby projects as a way to relax really that uncommon? For reference, I started a small Bitcoin mining hardware business back in the day, while still holding a 200/hr week/8 days a week/400 days a year full-time job. Working on Bitcoin stuff was my "break" from regular work.

It's maybe an ... interesting sign that someone with substantial liquidity from tesla shares at this point in history is apparently finding cryptocurrency an enjoyable diversion/investment vehicle?

js4 5y ago

I was thinking the same thing.

yumraj 5y ago

Maybe he is losing faith in self driving cars and is looking for an alternate field.

malux85 5y ago
Diversification of interests accelerates creativity due to axiomatic discovery and reinforcement, idea plasticity and abstraction practice. Other interests are not just important, they are necessary.
- GeorgeTirebiter 5y ago
  Right. All really smart people 'play'. Famously, Feynman was spinning plates in the Caltech cafeteria on his fingertip, which gave him the ideas that ended up winning him a Nobel prize. Play is important for children of all ages.
  - karpathy 5y ago
    Surely You're Joking is one of my all time favorite books, for sure.

karpathy 5y ago

https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1407378320551923718 https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1407378320551923718 :) But more seriously, I just really love learning and worked on this on the side, in small increments in between the cracks, and purely from interest for fun.

adamnemecek 5y ago
How many hours a day do you work? And what does your daily schedule look like?
- karpathy 5y ago
  I count myself very fortunate that I find the word "work" very confusing.
  - adamnemecek 5y ago
    I know what you mean but I still think that there’s a number you can give. Like this counts as work. What does your average daily schedule look like?
    - exdsq 5y ago
      I'm interested in this too Karpathy, would love to know. Not sure why you're being down voted Adam.
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cs702 5y ago
It's awesome to see you doing this, and taking the time to respond here! Ditto for your (re)implementation of transformers a while back, which you clearly worked on for fun as a side project too. The world would be such a better place if every executive in charge of technology at a large company engaged in these kinds of side projects for fun on a regular basis :-) If I may, let me ask you an unrelated question that just 'popped in my head' only now but is related to your recent presentation at CVPR: Are you guys at Tesla fusing video with audio data for self-driving? Just curious. I ask because (a) sound waves at frequencies detectable by the human ear appear to be quite important for both routine and edge-case situations (e.g., sounds of other vehicles braking/screeching/accelerating/passing, sirens of ambulances/police cars/fire trucks, bursts of honks from other vehicles, people suddenly shouting/screaming nearby), and (b) audio and video signals are already synchronized, so I imagine fusing them should be more straightforward (e.g., there's already some research out there on applying deep learning to video clips with audio).

adflux 5y ago

Haven't seen tesla do much self driving in practice yet. 3 years late now?

plebianRube 5y ago
No, same timeline they state every year - FSD by the end of the year.
- papito 5y ago
  Sometimes I actually find more energy for working on an endless slog at work when I have an exciting side project going. Easy to get caught up in the side project, however.

canada_dry 5y ago

Related... his recent presentation at CVPR is quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL_rCK59ZI&t=28286s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL_rCK59ZI&t=28286s

mzs 5y ago

His boss has a passing interest…

fpgaminer 5y ago

Nobody can work 100% of the time, everyone needs breaks. But some engineers take breaks from their regular work by doing other "work". I find it bizarre that there are so many comments making this out to be some kind of dire situation where he's working on other things because Tesla is sinking or something. Is working on hobby projects as a way to relax really that uncommon? For reference, I started a small Bitcoin mining hardware business back in the day, while still holding a 200/hr week/8 days a week/400 days a year full-time job. Working on Bitcoin stuff was my "break" from regular work.