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Did this get flagged? It went from front page on HN to completely disappearing for me.

by scottndecker 5y ago

asjdflakjsdf 5y ago
same.
scottndecker 5y ago
I don't see how this violates the guidelines of HN.
wilsonfiifi 5y ago
It appears to have been flagged. I wonder what infractions have been caused...
theoblank 5y ago
Hmm, that's a bummer. I thought I followed all the rules?
- jwhitlark 5y ago
  I'm glad the mods unflagged this, as I do believe there is some interesting discussion here. Do you see your app as being useful to people researching more philosophical aspects of the Bible? (For instance: I'm atheist to the core, but I'm curious about the impact Stoicism had on the Bible.)
TameAntelope 5y ago
I flagged this submission because I think it has a high potential for not-interesting and unproductive discussion. Others can vouch if I'm wrong, but I don't see a place for an app like this on HN. Product Hunt seems more appropriate. This is a very loosely held opinion, though I'm not willing to go back and forth on it, and I doubt my flag will change anything one way or another.
- scottndecker 5y ago
  Did you read the HN guidelines? I can vouch that you're wrong. Someone spent time working on an app they care about and has proven by the conversation here to be interesting to the community. If someone wrote an app on a topic you'd be interested in, would you have flagged it? Please consider that there are varying perspectives on HN beyond your own and that sharing an app which allows people to study the Bible isn't forcing a worldview on anyone.
- theoblank 5y ago
  Can you clarify? Why would Product Hunt be more appropriate?
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  >Others can vouch if I'm wrong The problem is, unless I'm misunderstanding something about HN, they can not vouch until the submission is already dead. You're not out of bounds to suppose this will have some bad comments, but I do think it's presumptuous to bet there will be no interesting discussion. There in fact has already been both - a lot of interesting discussion, and a little bit of bad comments. I encourage you to flag bad comments while they are still the minority, and only resort to flagging the submission if they take over, since, again, nobody can vouch for the submission until it's dead, at which point there will be fewer people to vouch for it, as it will be hidden. Edit: Actually, maybe vouch is only for comments, and not for submissions? I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think my suggestion still makes sense.
- asjdflakjsdf 5y ago
  You serious? The guy/girl is taking on the task of trying to help with understanding of one of the most complex, and well known, books we have as a species! And he/she is trying to do so using technology that most here are familiar with. How in hell (pardon the pun) is this not relevant? Its a super interesting challenge
- unknown_error 5y ago
  Even as someone dismayed by the outsized influence of ancient religion on modern society, I don't think it's fair to flag this. Like it or not, this impacts a lot of people, and developing an app for that audience comes with its own set of interesting UX, curation, funding, etc. considerations. Even if I don't like the product, it's certainly worth a discussion at least.
dang 5y ago
It did. I've turned the flags off now. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594949 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594949

Did this get flagged? It went from front page on HN to completely disappearing for me.

asjdflakjsdf 5y ago

same.

scottndecker 5y ago

I don't see how this violates the guidelines of HN.

wilsonfiifi 5y ago

It appears to have been flagged. I wonder what infractions have been caused...

theoblank 5y ago

Hmm, that's a bummer. I thought I followed all the rules?

jwhitlark 5y ago
I'm glad the mods unflagged this, as I do believe there is some interesting discussion here. Do you see your app as being useful to people researching more philosophical aspects of the Bible? (For instance: I'm atheist to the core, but I'm curious about the impact Stoicism had on the Bible.)

TameAntelope 5y ago

I flagged this submission because I think it has a high potential for not-interesting and unproductive discussion. Others can vouch if I'm wrong, but I don't see a place for an app like this on HN. Product Hunt seems more appropriate. This is a very loosely held opinion, though I'm not willing to go back and forth on it, and I doubt my flag will change anything one way or another.

scottndecker 5y ago
Did you read the HN guidelines? I can vouch that you're wrong. Someone spent time working on an app they care about and has proven by the conversation here to be interesting to the community. If someone wrote an app on a topic you'd be interested in, would you have flagged it? Please consider that there are varying perspectives on HN beyond your own and that sharing an app which allows people to study the Bible isn't forcing a worldview on anyone.
theoblank 5y ago
Can you clarify? Why would Product Hunt be more appropriate?
happytoexplain 5y ago
>Others can vouch if I'm wrong The problem is, unless I'm misunderstanding something about HN, they can not vouch until the submission is already dead. You're not out of bounds to suppose this will have some bad comments, but I do think it's presumptuous to bet there will be no interesting discussion. There in fact has already been both - a lot of interesting discussion, and a little bit of bad comments. I encourage you to flag bad comments while they are still the minority, and only resort to flagging the submission if they take over, since, again, nobody can vouch for the submission until it's dead, at which point there will be fewer people to vouch for it, as it will be hidden. Edit: Actually, maybe vouch is only for comments, and not for submissions? I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think my suggestion still makes sense.
asjdflakjsdf 5y ago
You serious? The guy/girl is taking on the task of trying to help with understanding of one of the most complex, and well known, books we have as a species! And he/she is trying to do so using technology that most here are familiar with. How in hell (pardon the pun) is this not relevant? Its a super interesting challenge
unknown_error 5y ago
Even as someone dismayed by the outsized influence of ancient religion on modern society, I don't think it's fair to flag this. Like it or not, this impacts a lot of people, and developing an app for that audience comes with its own set of interesting UX, curation, funding, etc. considerations. Even if I don't like the product, it's certainly worth a discussion at least.

dang 5y ago

It did. I've turned the flags off now. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594949 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594949