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Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon, what's more unsettling? That there exists terrestrial technology that can confuse t

Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon, what's more unsettling? That there exists terrestrial technology that can confuse top-quality domestic military flight sensors, or terrestrial technology that can replicate the motion and behaviour of the various "tictac" videos and reports from domestic military observers, or there's extraterrestrial technology that can do the same? IMHO, the ET solution is both the most boring and the least unsettling. If there is a terrestrial explanation for this phenomonen then that means there's a foreign adversary decades or more beyond American flight technology. If it's ET, then they haven't hurt us yet, and don't appear to be interested in doing so, and also not interested in sharing tech.

swader999 5y ago
It means they likely have an advanced energy source that might benefit all of humanity.
Consultant32452 5y ago
There is a third option which is that it's all a psy-op. Either way the way we are thinking/talking about this is insane. Eric Weinstein has several great threads about this, but I'll summarize some of his points. The military itself is saying it's aliens without using the word alien. It doesn't matter how you read this story, it should be the biggest thing. If there's aliens, it's the biggest story in history. If the military is pulling the wool over our eyes in a psy-op, it's a really big story. If we've been significantly outclassed by a foreign military tech, that's a huge story. But we're not talking about it like this. If it's aliens or enemy military, why are we not collecting our greatest scientists/physicists to work on this? None of it makes sense no matter which narrative you think is most likely.
- dleslie 5y ago
  That sounds a lot like our bewilderment over inaction on climate change, several decades ago. Here was a civilization-ending, even species-threatening catastrophe unfolding before us and it was nigh-on impossible to invigorate a meaningful response from Governments and passion from the public. My gut reaction is that most folks are brushing it off as a non-event because it doesn't directly concern them, and they've become numb to outlandish, world-changing news.
  - lumberingjack 5y ago
    That's because climate change is still not proven after 30 years every model every prediction is almost ultimately turned up to be wrong or reversed yes the Earth is changing natural History shows us that it does that very rapidly whether or not we caused it or not is still the issue. I look at it this way smog is climate change it changes an entire city climate it also kills people with bad lungs but you're not going to get people to stop making it.
mklingen 5y ago
> Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon, [citation needed]
- dleslie 5y ago
  The general consensus about the forthcoming "On or before June 29" report is that the most likely natural explanationt may be some incredibly improbable, but still remotely possible, simultaneous combination of sensor error and eye witness mis-identification that somehow corroborates each other. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-weigh-in-on-pentagon-ufo-report/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-weigh-in-...
user-the-name 5y ago
The videos that have been released all have simple and boring explanations that fit perfectly, and are things like "camera artefacts" and "a bird".
stronglikedan 5y ago
> Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon Kyle Hill makes a very thorough and compelling case for jet engine exhaust in IR, here: https://youtu.be/I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074 https://youtu.be/I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074
slver 5y ago
I'm not sure that "what's less unsettling" is a good criteria. Also you only provide two options, which given the unknown character of the phenomenon, would count as a false dichotomy.

swader999 5y ago

It means they likely have an advanced energy source that might benefit all of humanity.

Consultant32452 5y ago

There is a third option which is that it's all a psy-op. Either way the way we are thinking/talking about this is insane. Eric Weinstein has several great threads about this, but I'll summarize some of his points. The military itself is saying it's aliens without using the word alien. It doesn't matter how you read this story, it should be the biggest thing. If there's aliens, it's the biggest story in history. If the military is pulling the wool over our eyes in a psy-op, it's a really big story. If we've been significantly outclassed by a foreign military tech, that's a huge story. But we're not talking about it like this. If it's aliens or enemy military, why are we not collecting our greatest scientists/physicists to work on this? None of it makes sense no matter which narrative you think is most likely.

dleslie 5y ago
That sounds a lot like our bewilderment over inaction on climate change, several decades ago. Here was a civilization-ending, even species-threatening catastrophe unfolding before us and it was nigh-on impossible to invigorate a meaningful response from Governments and passion from the public. My gut reaction is that most folks are brushing it off as a non-event because it doesn't directly concern them, and they've become numb to outlandish, world-changing news.
- lumberingjack 5y ago
  That's because climate change is still not proven after 30 years every model every prediction is almost ultimately turned up to be wrong or reversed yes the Earth is changing natural History shows us that it does that very rapidly whether or not we caused it or not is still the issue. I look at it this way smog is climate change it changes an entire city climate it also kills people with bad lungs but you're not going to get people to stop making it.

mklingen 5y ago

> Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon, [citation needed]

dleslie 5y ago
The general consensus about the forthcoming "On or before June 29" report is that the most likely natural explanationt may be some incredibly improbable, but still remotely possible, simultaneous combination of sensor error and eye witness mis-identification that somehow corroborates each other. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-weigh-in-on-pentagon-ufo-report/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-weigh-in-...

user-the-name 5y ago

The videos that have been released all have simple and boring explanations that fit perfectly, and are things like "camera artefacts" and "a bird".

stronglikedan 5y ago

> Given that the various "tictac" reports appear not to be natural phenomenon Kyle Hill makes a very thorough and compelling case for jet engine exhaust in IR, here: https://youtu.be/I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074 https://youtu.be/I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074

slver 5y ago

I'm not sure that "what's less unsettling" is a good criteria. Also you only provide two options, which given the unknown character of the phenomenon, would count as a false dichotomy.