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I love the promise of formal methods. I've been coding professionally since 1992 and to this day, I don't have a better way to get started on a software develo
by commandlinefan 5y ago
I love the promise of formal methods. I've been coding professionally since 1992 and to this day, I don't have a better way to get started on a software development task than "give me the gist of what you want, I'll program something, and then we'll tweak it later". Don't get me wrong - I've spent cumulative years of my life sitting through week-long design sessions where the loudest, most opinionated people in the room argue back and forth about trivial, inconsequential details and produce 600+ page documents that no human could possibly read, but none of them have ever had any bearing on the finished product. So I like the idea of having a definite process to go through - however complex - that will result in indisputably superior software.
However, even if I were to spend - what, a month? - learning TLA+, I doubt I'm persuasive enough to actually force its adoption in any organization, and there's no real evidence that companies that are actually successful are using it either.
- Tainnor 5y agoApparently, Amazon is using TLA+ to some extent or another.
- DylanSp 5y agoYep, at least on the AWS side. See https://m-cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/4/184701-how-amazon-web-services-uses-formal-methods/fulltext https://m-cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/4/184701-how-amazon-we...
- tluyben2 5y agoTLA+ is a good way to get into to some formalization: it is easy to learn.
- DylanSp 5y agoCheck out https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/business-case-formal-methods/ https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/business-case-formal-method... (from the same author as the OP). It's a blogpost on how to make the case for adopting formal methods, including links to case studies about its use in industry.