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I agree. Seeing stuff like this take hold is both scary and tragic to me. It feels like a genuine turning point for our way of life when the government can co

I agree. Seeing stuff like this take hold is both scary and tragic to me. It feels like a genuine turning point for our way of life when the government can control your life unless you have a brand new medical procedure which, with no hyperbole, can kill healthy people at no significant risk from the disease. I’m amazed how popular it seems to be here and the fact you have downvotes. This community like to tear companies like Facebook apart but cannot see the risks and impacts of what we are doing here?

logicchains 5y ago
I grew up in Australia, thinking Americans were crazy for their obsession with guns. In the past year my opinion changed completely, after seeing the US states with high gun ownership like Florida and Texas are some of the few places in the world where this authoritarianism hasn't taken hold.
- lettergram 5y ago
  The US is a bit different than portrayed. Even in Illinois, most of the state is hard red. They have “2nd amendment sanctuary counties”. Masking, gun laws, etc aren’t followed in the country, even suburbs. Honestly, there’s a good reason people in Illinois believe their elections are stolen (there’s lots of historic proof). It’s an open secret that the democrats steal the state. If you ask around, almost everyone believes it. To be fair, Illinois has jailed a significant number of governors lol
- hvac 5y ago
  I'm not sure those states are good examples when their governors were happy to impose restrictions on private businesses and remove their freedom of choice wrt proof of vaccination - to the complaint of the Cato Institute, no less.
ryandrake 5y ago
I'm amazed at the amount of discussion, period. The article factually laid out the small amount of information encoded in the QR code, walked through the data format, and showed it to be pretty minimal and well-designed. No URLs, no hidden trackers, no evil ad salesman selling your browser history. Yet here we are at the #1 spot on HN and almost 400 comments. Full of conspiracy theories, COVID-downplayers and anti-vaxxers. I'm trying to connect the dots between a QR code and the New World Order, and I'm coming up empty. I thought HN was above this and wish this stuff could stay on Facebook and Twitter.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  > I'm amazed at the amount of discussion, period. The article factually laid out the small amount of information encoded in the QR code, walked through the data format, and showed it to be pretty minimal and well-designed. No URLs, no hidden trackers, no evil ad salesman selling your browser history. Yet here we are at the #1 spot on HN and almost 400 comments. Full of conspiracy theories, COVID-downplayers and anti-vaxxers. I'm trying to connect the dots between a QR code and the New World Order, and I'm coming up empty. I thought HN was above this and wish this stuff could stay on Facebook and Twitter. No one cares about the qr codes themselves and I think you are willingly ignoring the main point. The problem is that you need to show a government issued "pass" to access almost any public space. You may be okay with that but please don't pretend it's nothing new and it's always been like that. Asking for a digital certificate to live your life normally is unprecedented, but I guess at least it's not ads? Who talked about that anyways, can't both things be bad? I guess what the NSA does is alright since it's unrelated to a new world order or ad tracking? As for antivaxxers or covid downplayers, Imo pretending this whole apparatus is needed is the real anti vaxxer position. The vaccines work, and if someone doesn't want to take them the risk is on them. Downplaying covid now is the pro vax position, while yours imply vaccines barely work so we need precedent setting measures like these. I mean the comment that started this subthread is literally saying that vaccines work so the straw man you are building is absurd

logicchains 5y ago

I grew up in Australia, thinking Americans were crazy for their obsession with guns. In the past year my opinion changed completely, after seeing the US states with high gun ownership like Florida and Texas are some of the few places in the world where this authoritarianism hasn't taken hold.

lettergram 5y ago
The US is a bit different than portrayed. Even in Illinois, most of the state is hard red. They have “2nd amendment sanctuary counties”. Masking, gun laws, etc aren’t followed in the country, even suburbs. Honestly, there’s a good reason people in Illinois believe their elections are stolen (there’s lots of historic proof). It’s an open secret that the democrats steal the state. If you ask around, almost everyone believes it. To be fair, Illinois has jailed a significant number of governors lol
hvac 5y ago
I'm not sure those states are good examples when their governors were happy to impose restrictions on private businesses and remove their freedom of choice wrt proof of vaccination - to the complaint of the Cato Institute, no less.

ryandrake 5y ago

I'm amazed at the amount of discussion, period. The article factually laid out the small amount of information encoded in the QR code, walked through the data format, and showed it to be pretty minimal and well-designed. No URLs, no hidden trackers, no evil ad salesman selling your browser history. Yet here we are at the #1 spot on HN and almost 400 comments. Full of conspiracy theories, COVID-downplayers and anti-vaxxers. I'm trying to connect the dots between a QR code and the New World Order, and I'm coming up empty. I thought HN was above this and wish this stuff could stay on Facebook and Twitter.

mardifoufs 5y ago
> I'm amazed at the amount of discussion, period. The article factually laid out the small amount of information encoded in the QR code, walked through the data format, and showed it to be pretty minimal and well-designed. No URLs, no hidden trackers, no evil ad salesman selling your browser history. Yet here we are at the #1 spot on HN and almost 400 comments. Full of conspiracy theories, COVID-downplayers and anti-vaxxers. I'm trying to connect the dots between a QR code and the New World Order, and I'm coming up empty. I thought HN was above this and wish this stuff could stay on Facebook and Twitter. No one cares about the qr codes themselves and I think you are willingly ignoring the main point. The problem is that you need to show a government issued "pass" to access almost any public space. You may be okay with that but please don't pretend it's nothing new and it's always been like that. Asking for a digital certificate to live your life normally is unprecedented, but I guess at least it's not ads? Who talked about that anyways, can't both things be bad? I guess what the NSA does is alright since it's unrelated to a new world order or ad tracking? As for antivaxxers or covid downplayers, Imo pretending this whole apparatus is needed is the real anti vaxxer position. The vaccines work, and if someone doesn't want to take them the risk is on them. Downplaying covid now is the pro vax position, while yours imply vaccines barely work so we need precedent setting measures like these. I mean the comment that started this subthread is literally saying that vaccines work so the straw man you are building is absurd