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It's not a privacy problem, it's a human rights one. Sadly, no one seems to care. Requiring a genetic treatment, to work, travel or live is a dystopic future.

by hammon 5y ago

It's not a privacy problem, it's a human rights one. Sadly, no one seems to care. Requiring a genetic treatment, to work, travel or live is a dystopic future. Madness.

koalaman 5y ago
At every level of education I was required to show evidence of vaccination to attend. This has been normal for many decades, and as far as I'm concerned makes complete sense. It's unclear to me what's dystopic about public health requirements. Society imposes on individuals many constraints, and gives us back many benefits in return. Perhaps people care, but simply disagree with your threshold for what's an appropriate societal imposition. I certainly do.
yarcob 5y ago
You can get tested instead of getting a vaccine. (Also, a vaccine is not a "genetic treatment". Not even an RNA vaccine.)
aww_dang 5y ago
I care. Many are skeptical of a vaccine passport combined with a digital wallet for CBDC. The historical background of those promoting this program is concerning. Even without that, the historical parallels to other atrocities is concerning. Together it seems obvious to those who are willing to examine it. Unfortunately, there's a distinct lack of "intellectual curiosity" surrounding these issues. People are scared. Once again, they are looking for authorities to help them. Dissent is demonized as always. In this case, concerns are framed as dangerous propaganda preventing us from reacquiring our pre-pandemic freedoms. For those true believers, I ask: When has government willingly returned freedoms ceded under the pretense of emergency? The banality of evil marches on.
quenix 5y ago
"Genetic treatment"? Please.
- hammon 5y ago
  if you modify rna to produce a protein of your choice what it is? btw, even for the law Vaccine is something that give you immunity, and we have already plenty people with 2 shot getting covid again... Next winter we will be in the same situation as 2 year ago, and alot of people will realize.
  - aww_dang 5y ago
    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886 Merriam Webster has changed the definition of "Vaccine" to avoid the distinction you have raised.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Then consuming any medicine -- or food! -- is also "genetic treatment", because all those organisms we consume have had their DNA altered by selective breeding. You're spouting silliness.

by hammon 5y ago

It's not a privacy problem, it's a human rights one. Sadly, no one seems to care. Requiring a genetic treatment, to work, travel or live is a dystopic future. Madness.

koalaman 5y ago

At every level of education I was required to show evidence of vaccination to attend. This has been normal for many decades, and as far as I'm concerned makes complete sense. It's unclear to me what's dystopic about public health requirements. Society imposes on individuals many constraints, and gives us back many benefits in return. Perhaps people care, but simply disagree with your threshold for what's an appropriate societal imposition. I certainly do.

yarcob 5y ago

You can get tested instead of getting a vaccine. (Also, a vaccine is not a "genetic treatment". Not even an RNA vaccine.)

aww_dang 5y ago

I care. Many are skeptical of a vaccine passport combined with a digital wallet for CBDC. The historical background of those promoting this program is concerning. Even without that, the historical parallels to other atrocities is concerning. Together it seems obvious to those who are willing to examine it. Unfortunately, there's a distinct lack of "intellectual curiosity" surrounding these issues. People are scared. Once again, they are looking for authorities to help them. Dissent is demonized as always. In this case, concerns are framed as dangerous propaganda preventing us from reacquiring our pre-pandemic freedoms. For those true believers, I ask: When has government willingly returned freedoms ceded under the pretense of emergency? The banality of evil marches on.

quenix 5y ago

"Genetic treatment"? Please.

hammon 5y ago
if you modify rna to produce a protein of your choice what it is? btw, even for the law Vaccine is something that give you immunity, and we have already plenty people with 2 shot getting covid again... Next winter we will be in the same situation as 2 year ago, and alot of people will realize.
- aww_dang 5y ago
  https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=50886 Merriam Webster has changed the definition of "Vaccine" to avoid the distinction you have raised.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Then consuming any medicine -- or food! -- is also "genetic treatment", because all those organisms we consume have had their DNA altered by selective breeding. You're spouting silliness.