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Is there tangible, real, honest to god proof that the Chinese government is involved in using TikTok to “steal data”? Because to be honest it sounds like nation

Is there tangible, real, honest to god proof that the Chinese government is involved in using TikTok to “steal data”? Because to be honest it sounds like nationalistic nonsense to me. Classic HN, due pedantry on backing up broad statements with sources, except for when it’s about whatever enemy is currently in the spotlight.

LatteLazy 5y ago
This story [0] covers a report that they worked with the CCP to help with the Geoocide against the Uighurs. That's not exactly what you asked for, but I think it contributed to the deeper point: if you do business in China, you give the CCP what they want. If that's Uighur's hiding in cellars or a senator's affair before (s)he votes on tariffs or whatever, it doesn't really make a difference. Don't get me wrong, the NSA are playing the same "game" and have been caught a lot more often. [0] https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/tiktok-s-owner-is-helping-china-s-campaign-of-repression-in-xinjiang-report-finds-20191129-p53fcs.html https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/tiktok-s-owner-is-helping-...
- corytheboyd 5y ago
  Thank you for not responding with hostility. I do believe the goals of the Chinese government are nefarious, I mean this quote is pure insanity: > Together with the Public Security Bureau, Huawei will unlock a new era of smart policing and help build a safer, smarter society Maybe moves will be made in the future and I’ll look dumb for questioning this. In the mean time I guess I’ll go back to work so that I can pay Uncle Sam to perpetuate the glorious US war machine.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    Most of your tax money goes to healthcare and social security. For 2020 the HHS alone is 2x the defense budget. https://www.thebalance.com/fy-2020-federal-budget-summary-of-revenue-and-spending-4797868 https://www.thebalance.com/fy-2020-federal-budget-summary-of... 2019 budget so you can exclude Corona and still see it's mostly health programs and social security - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56324 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56324

LatteLazy 5y ago

This story [0] covers a report that they worked with the CCP to help with the Geoocide against the Uighurs. That's not exactly what you asked for, but I think it contributed to the deeper point: if you do business in China, you give the CCP what they want. If that's Uighur's hiding in cellars or a senator's affair before (s)he votes on tariffs or whatever, it doesn't really make a difference. Don't get me wrong, the NSA are playing the same "game" and have been caught a lot more often. [0] https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/tiktok-s-owner-is-helping-china-s-campaign-of-repression-in-xinjiang-report-finds-20191129-p53fcs.html https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/tiktok-s-owner-is-helping-...

corytheboyd 5y ago
Thank you for not responding with hostility. I do believe the goals of the Chinese government are nefarious, I mean this quote is pure insanity: > Together with the Public Security Bureau, Huawei will unlock a new era of smart policing and help build a safer, smarter society Maybe moves will be made in the future and I’ll look dumb for questioning this. In the mean time I guess I’ll go back to work so that I can pay Uncle Sam to perpetuate the glorious US war machine.
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  Most of your tax money goes to healthcare and social security. For 2020 the HHS alone is 2x the defense budget. https://www.thebalance.com/fy-2020-federal-budget-summary-of-revenue-and-spending-4797868 https://www.thebalance.com/fy-2020-federal-budget-summary-of... 2019 budget so you can exclude Corona and still see it's mostly health programs and social security - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56324 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56324