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Pretty sure the complaints were as I mentioned - feel free to give links to the other discussions. The "central authority" already do forbid you from accessing

Pretty sure the complaints were as I mentioned - feel free to give links to the other discussions. The "central authority" already do forbid you from accessing certain or public services for the same rules - only you need to provide the relevant paper documents. This is effectively the paperless version thereof. You may personally disagree with the concept of proof of vaccination, but thats completely aside from the technical discussion we are having here.

justinmchase 5y ago
Its not an aside, its centrally related. The technical version of the app enables the problematic activity to scale and thus the moral and ethical implications are centrally related to the technical implmenetation.
- miohtama 5y ago
  Would you be happier by checking equivalent paper printouts, check done by hand?
- mbesto 5y ago
  > are centrally related to the technical implmenetation. You mean just like a centrally fabricated ID card that's used for entering an airport, making certain purchases, verifying ID for a CC purchase, entering the country, etc?
ajsnigrutin 5y ago
What public service does the government forbid me to access without my papers (except the ones where the document is needed to charge the state for the service - eg. medical stuff)? Just a year ago, saying that the governments will require you to produce a "vaccination passport" to enter a restaurant was laughed at as a crazy conspiracy theory, and currently, the difference between a "crazy conspiracy theory" and "reality" is about 6-12 months.
- supermatt 5y ago
  "certain or public services" was the phrase the parent used. I just said the same rules apply as before. Maybe you are better off asking them for examples.
- mmmmmbop 5y ago
  What public services does the government forbid you to access without a Covid vaccine? I am not aware of any. If you are talking about private services, then there are many examples where papers are needed: • buying alcohol (ID) • entering a nightclub (ID) • taking a plane (ID) • opening a bank account (SSN/ITIN) • renting a car (driver's license) • buying a gun (proof of residence)

justinmchase 5y ago

Its not an aside, its centrally related. The technical version of the app enables the problematic activity to scale and thus the moral and ethical implications are centrally related to the technical implmenetation.

miohtama 5y ago
Would you be happier by checking equivalent paper printouts, check done by hand?
mbesto 5y ago
> are centrally related to the technical implmenetation. You mean just like a centrally fabricated ID card that's used for entering an airport, making certain purchases, verifying ID for a CC purchase, entering the country, etc?

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

What public service does the government forbid me to access without my papers (except the ones where the document is needed to charge the state for the service - eg. medical stuff)? Just a year ago, saying that the governments will require you to produce a "vaccination passport" to enter a restaurant was laughed at as a crazy conspiracy theory, and currently, the difference between a "crazy conspiracy theory" and "reality" is about 6-12 months.

supermatt 5y ago
"certain or public services" was the phrase the parent used. I just said the same rules apply as before. Maybe you are better off asking them for examples.
mmmmmbop 5y ago
What public services does the government forbid you to access without a Covid vaccine? I am not aware of any. If you are talking about private services, then there are many examples where papers are needed: • buying alcohol (ID) • entering a nightclub (ID) • taking a plane (ID) • opening a bank account (SSN/ITIN) • renting a car (driver's license) • buying a gun (proof of residence)