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NATO airspace is controlled by real radars and violation of it will trigger a real interception response.

mb_72 5y ago
Indeed. It happens very often that Russia causes such violations: https://news.err.ee/1608255123/nato-planes-scrambled-eight-times-last-week-in-response-to-russia-flights https://news.err.ee/1608255123/nato-planes-scrambled-eight-t...
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  So what? NAhTOd doesn't? https://www.rt.com/russia/521283-fighter-jet-spy-plane/ https://www.rt.com/russia/521283-fighter-jet-spy-plane/ https://www.rt.com/russia/515861-french-planes-intercept-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/515861-french-planes-intercept-bla... https://www.rt.com/russia/507633-navy-threat-warship-border/ https://www.rt.com/russia/507633-navy-threat-warship-border/ https://www.rt.com/russia/500016-nato-imitate-missile-stikes-russia/ https://www.rt.com/russia/500016-nato-imitate-missile-stikes... https://www.rt.com/russia/499908-b52-bombers-intercepted-crimea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/499908-b52-bombers-intercepted-cri... https://www.rt.com/russia/496701-russia-intercept-us-plane-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/496701-russia-intercept-us-plane-b... https://www.rt.com/russia/496003-us-spy-plane-intercept-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/496003-us-spy-plane-intercept-blac... https://www.rt.com/russia/491915-russia-jets-us-bombers-baltics/ https://www.rt.com/russia/491915-russia-jets-us-bombers-balt... https://www.rt.com/russia/490168-russia-jets-us-strategic-bomber/ https://www.rt.com/russia/490168-russia-jets-us-strategic-bo... And do you think these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135 and these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_RC-135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_RC-135 are only taxiing on their runways at home, just to be prepared? Hm?
  - mb_72 5y ago
    RT is hardly an independent news organisation. And how many of those are 'near' Russian borders, which is not the same as actually being inside NATO airspace... as you well know.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
      But they were convenient. I won't invest hours collecting sites to make my point. Besides that 'independence' is relative. Anyway, I'm just wary of one-sided bitching. Above a certain treshold of waryness I tend to bitch back. As simple as that.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
That's not what I meant. I meant "projecting" something like 'Mig-31-007@Mach3@somealtitude@somedirection ultrabadaboom' via ADS-B without actually any plane there. For the lulz, you know? (by means of microdrone, from satellite, buoys, their own ECM-planes, whatever...) Meanwhile NAhTOd scrambling interceptors, AWACS, whatever, because can't really trust the primary radar, no?

Indeed. It happens very often that Russia causes such violations: https://news.err.ee/1608255123/nato-planes-scrambled-eight-times-last-week-in-response-to-russia-flights https://news.err.ee/1608255123/nato-planes-scrambled-eight-t...

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
So what? NAhTOd doesn't? https://www.rt.com/russia/521283-fighter-jet-spy-plane/ https://www.rt.com/russia/521283-fighter-jet-spy-plane/ https://www.rt.com/russia/515861-french-planes-intercept-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/515861-french-planes-intercept-bla... https://www.rt.com/russia/507633-navy-threat-warship-border/ https://www.rt.com/russia/507633-navy-threat-warship-border/ https://www.rt.com/russia/500016-nato-imitate-missile-stikes-russia/ https://www.rt.com/russia/500016-nato-imitate-missile-stikes... https://www.rt.com/russia/499908-b52-bombers-intercepted-crimea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/499908-b52-bombers-intercepted-cri... https://www.rt.com/russia/496701-russia-intercept-us-plane-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/496701-russia-intercept-us-plane-b... https://www.rt.com/russia/496003-us-spy-plane-intercept-black-sea/ https://www.rt.com/russia/496003-us-spy-plane-intercept-blac... https://www.rt.com/russia/491915-russia-jets-us-bombers-baltics/ https://www.rt.com/russia/491915-russia-jets-us-bombers-balt... https://www.rt.com/russia/490168-russia-jets-us-strategic-bomber/ https://www.rt.com/russia/490168-russia-jets-us-strategic-bo... And do you think these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135 and these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_RC-135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_RC-135 are only taxiing on their runways at home, just to be prepared? Hm?
- mb_72 5y ago
  RT is hardly an independent news organisation. And how many of those are 'near' Russian borders, which is not the same as actually being inside NATO airspace... as you well know.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    But they were convenient. I won't invest hours collecting sites to make my point. Besides that 'independence' is relative. Anyway, I'm just wary of one-sided bitching. Above a certain treshold of waryness I tend to bitch back. As simple as that.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago

That's not what I meant. I meant "projecting" something like 'Mig-31-007@Mach3@somealtitude@somedirection ultrabadaboom' via ADS-B without actually any plane there. For the lulz, you know? (by means of microdrone, from satellite, buoys, their own ECM-planes, whatever...) Meanwhile NAhTOd scrambling interceptors, AWACS, whatever, because can't really trust the primary radar, no?