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I would say the Hong Kong courts are now rather agreeable to the CCP for various political reasons, but "tightly controlled" is quite a baseless sensationalist

by hnfong 5y ago

I would say the Hong Kong courts are now rather agreeable to the CCP for various political reasons, but "tightly controlled" is quite a baseless sensationalist remark. It was only mere 2 years ago when Hong Kong courts decided against the government when they tried to implement emergency measures against wearing masks to quell the uprisings. (This almost led to disaster due to almost-overreaction from NPCSC... which is one of the reasons why judges are less willing to challenge the government now...) You can argue that NSL courts have judges specifically appointed for the role by the Hong Kong government, but it's still rather comparable to most other legal systems where head of state or the government appoints judges. The US president appoints judges. This in itself doesn't make those judges "tightly controlled"...

hkmaxpro 5y ago
> I would say the Hong Kong courts are now rather agreeable to the CCP for various political reasons, but "tightly controlled" is quite a baseless sensationalist remark. If the HK courts give an unfavorable verdict, the CCP can always transfer the case to the courts of mainland China, per Article 55 of the NSL. (People’s Daily made such a threat a few months ago when the high court granted Jimmy Lai bail, which was later overturned by the final court. [0]) It’s like saying that I will flip a fair coin, but I will keep flipping and only accept the last outcome when it turns up head. Not biased at all! Now tell me again it’s not tightly controlled. [0] https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/the-struggle-over-jimmy-lais-bail-is-a-struggle-over-hong-kongs-freedom-of-expression/ https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/the-struggle-over-jimmy-lais...
- hnfong 5y ago
  If your claim is "NSL courts include Mainland courts which are tightly controlled by CCP", then sure, why not. That said, to nit pick, your original claim is "HK has a NSL court", which excludes the mainland courts.

by hnfong 5y ago

hkmaxpro 5y ago

> I would say the Hong Kong courts are now rather agreeable to the CCP for various political reasons, but "tightly controlled" is quite a baseless sensationalist remark. If the HK courts give an unfavorable verdict, the CCP can always transfer the case to the courts of mainland China, per Article 55 of the NSL. (People’s Daily made such a threat a few months ago when the high court granted Jimmy Lai bail, which was later overturned by the final court. [0]) It’s like saying that I will flip a fair coin, but I will keep flipping and only accept the last outcome when it turns up head. Not biased at all! Now tell me again it’s not tightly controlled. [0] https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/the-struggle-over-jimmy-lais-bail-is-a-struggle-over-hong-kongs-freedom-of-expression/ https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/the-struggle-over-jimmy-lais...

hnfong 5y ago
If your claim is "NSL courts include Mainland courts which are tightly controlled by CCP", then sure, why not. That said, to nit pick, your original claim is "HK has a NSL court", which excludes the mainland courts.