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Somewhere I saw someone say once: "You didn't make good choices. You had good choices." It tends to be the people with the best opportunities and the most reso

Somewhere I saw someone say once: "You didn't make good choices. You had good choices." It tends to be the people with the best opportunities and the most resources who snidely look down their nose and pretend other people just didn't try hard enough, work hard enough, sacrifice enough, etc. This is part of how racism and other social ills remain entrenched: Don't give folks the same opportunities, then blame them when their life sucks and attribute it to personal moral failure.

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esyir 5y ago
This is the way you get defect culture on a massive scale. People don't go "oh, man, I did whatever I could to make it. Good on him for his bailout". They go "Why the hell did I try, when I get punished for it?". They then remember this, and over time you have an engrained cultural problem. This "solution" that I see right now is the short-termist, feel-good solution that comes crashing down in the "not-my-problem-I-already-got-relected" future. Some might have better choices than others, but you still should be optimizing for the local "best" choice to align with the global "best" choice.
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  We did that to the best of our ability during the pandemic in part by asking some folks to stop working. Now you want to punish those folks. That doesn't optimize anything. It just means some people get shafted and become cynical about "taking one for the team."
Gibbon1 5y ago
All I got to say is having a job and a house meant I was able to refinanced my loan to 2.5% saving $165,952. I feel like the outrage at this sort of stuff is because people with good choices instinctively know if you cut schmuck a break, he might get ahead of you. I just remembered once playing monopoly. One of the kids playing busted out. Or would have but I handed him a wad of my money. Kid who was winning then had a complete meltdown.
- nly 5y ago
  Well, to be fair to the kid who was winning, the objective of the game is to bankrupt everyone else. Nothing in the rules against colluding though. Come to think of it, Monopoly is a hilariously vile game and it's pretty odd that its still PC to sell it.

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esyir 5y ago

This is the way you get defect culture on a massive scale. People don't go "oh, man, I did whatever I could to make it. Good on him for his bailout". They go "Why the hell did I try, when I get punished for it?". They then remember this, and over time you have an engrained cultural problem. This "solution" that I see right now is the short-termist, feel-good solution that comes crashing down in the "not-my-problem-I-already-got-relected" future. Some might have better choices than others, but you still should be optimizing for the local "best" choice to align with the global "best" choice.

DoreenMichele 5y ago
We did that to the best of our ability during the pandemic in part by asking some folks to stop working. Now you want to punish those folks. That doesn't optimize anything. It just means some people get shafted and become cynical about "taking one for the team."

Gibbon1 5y ago

All I got to say is having a job and a house meant I was able to refinanced my loan to 2.5% saving $165,952. I feel like the outrage at this sort of stuff is because people with good choices instinctively know if you cut schmuck a break, he might get ahead of you. I just remembered once playing monopoly. One of the kids playing busted out. Or would have but I handed him a wad of my money. Kid who was winning then had a complete meltdown.

nly 5y ago
Well, to be fair to the kid who was winning, the objective of the game is to bankrupt everyone else. Nothing in the rules against colluding though. Come to think of it, Monopoly is a hilariously vile game and it's pretty odd that its still PC to sell it.