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For the record, it was Volkswagen that cheated the emissions test, not Volvo

by motardo 5y ago

zargon 5y ago
Thanks! I wasn't sure I remembered correctly but didn't immediately see the answer in a quick google.
- nitrogen 5y ago
  didn't immediately see the answer in a quick google. Whether happening organically or through the magic of reputation management, that's pretty alarming, actually. Give it another few years and nobody will even remember.
  - toomanybeersies 5y ago
    If GP searched for something along the lines of "Volvo emissions cheating", then I hardly think it's alarming that the VW scandal didn't come up.
    - pope_meat 5y ago
      Just searched "emissions cheating" and uh, is like, every auto maker cheating on emissions? I remember the VW scandal, but this quick search leaves me to conclude that VW is only the most memorable one that got mass media attention of late. But hey, we love our corporate overlords, they only want what's best for us, the shareholders. (Not actually a shareholder of anything)
      - paganel 5y ago
        > Just searched "emissions cheating" and uh, is like, every auto maker cheating on emissions? More or less, yes, they all did. As an European I'd say it's a shared blame, though, as in the officials around Europe (both at national and at the EU level) who had very strongly pushed for diesel for the previous two to three decades (mostly through taxation/pricing policies) also deserve a very big part of this blame. The Americans got it right (especially states like California) when relegating diesel to mostly commercial/truck/public transport use, but the hybris and the "we know better than the silly Americans when it comes to the environment" prevailed in the end, that's why it took Dieselgate and at least a couple of decades for those officials to reverse their past mistakes.
    - formerly_proven 5y ago
      It's not really wrong, is it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal

For the record, it was Volkswagen that cheated the emissions test, not Volvo

zargon 5y ago

Thanks! I wasn't sure I remembered correctly but didn't immediately see the answer in a quick google.

nitrogen 5y ago
didn't immediately see the answer in a quick google. Whether happening organically or through the magic of reputation management, that's pretty alarming, actually. Give it another few years and nobody will even remember.
- toomanybeersies 5y ago
  If GP searched for something along the lines of "Volvo emissions cheating", then I hardly think it's alarming that the VW scandal didn't come up.
  - pope_meat 5y ago
    Just searched "emissions cheating" and uh, is like, every auto maker cheating on emissions? I remember the VW scandal, but this quick search leaves me to conclude that VW is only the most memorable one that got mass media attention of late. But hey, we love our corporate overlords, they only want what's best for us, the shareholders. (Not actually a shareholder of anything)
    - paganel 5y ago
      > Just searched "emissions cheating" and uh, is like, every auto maker cheating on emissions? More or less, yes, they all did. As an European I'd say it's a shared blame, though, as in the officials around Europe (both at national and at the EU level) who had very strongly pushed for diesel for the previous two to three decades (mostly through taxation/pricing policies) also deserve a very big part of this blame. The Americans got it right (especially states like California) when relegating diesel to mostly commercial/truck/public transport use, but the hybris and the "we know better than the silly Americans when it comes to the environment" prevailed in the end, that's why it took Dieselgate and at least a couple of decades for those officials to reverse their past mistakes.
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    It's not really wrong, is it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal