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Continuing to rely on fossil fuels to the extent we currently do will bequeath a damaged if not dying planet to future generations. This is opinion, not demonst

Continuing to rely on fossil fuels to the extent we currently do will bequeath a damaged if not dying planet to future generations. This is opinion, not demonstrable fact.

runbathtime 5y ago
Science is downstream of politics. This 'science' wants their opinion to be treated as fact.
mint2 5y ago
Do you mean to say that fossil fuel driven climate change is an opinion or do you mean to say that the effects of that climate change are an opinion? Human induced climate change is generally accepted by experts. That climate change is and will cause massive disruption and economic cost is not really a controversial opinion/projection, except by those who seem to want to weaponize the denial for political gain or short term profit.
- wrycoder 5y ago
  The forecasts of fossil fuel driven climate change are based entirely on computer models. We are currently in an interglacial epoch. Fifteen thousand years ago, there was ice a mile thick here in New Hampshire. We have also recently come out of the so-called Little Ice Age. In the early 18th century, it was possible to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island on the ice in New York Harbor, which is abnormal. So, it’s been warming. The world-wide tropospheric temperature over the last forty years, as measured by satellite, has increased steadily at a rate of about 1.5 deg C per century. That is nothing to be worried about. I hope it continues. The forecasts are increasingly divergent from reality. At some point, that will have to be recognized. I am a retired physicist. I don’t have any political ax to grind. I read the papers on both sides of the argument. Mainly, I look at the tropospheric temperature record. I claim that the models are disproven, since reality is well below the lowest warming forecasts and has been for decades. https://www.drroyspencer.com/2021/06/uah-global-temperature-update-for-may-2021-0-08-deg-c/ https://www.drroyspencer.com/2021/06/uah-global-temperature-...
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    So what’s going on that the environmental scientists largely seem to agree that we’re headed toward a cliff? Are they just bad at science? Or is their science just being wildly miscommunicated by the media et al? How do you reconcile your “it’s all good” with the popular perception of climate science?

Continuing to rely on fossil fuels to the extent we currently do will bequeath a damaged if not dying planet to future generations. This is opinion, not demonstrable fact.

runbathtime 5y ago

Science is downstream of politics. This 'science' wants their opinion to be treated as fact.

mint2 5y ago

Do you mean to say that fossil fuel driven climate change is an opinion or do you mean to say that the effects of that climate change are an opinion? Human induced climate change is generally accepted by experts. That climate change is and will cause massive disruption and economic cost is not really a controversial opinion/projection, except by those who seem to want to weaponize the denial for political gain or short term profit.

wrycoder 5y ago
The forecasts of fossil fuel driven climate change are based entirely on computer models. We are currently in an interglacial epoch. Fifteen thousand years ago, there was ice a mile thick here in New Hampshire. We have also recently come out of the so-called Little Ice Age. In the early 18th century, it was possible to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island on the ice in New York Harbor, which is abnormal. So, it’s been warming. The world-wide tropospheric temperature over the last forty years, as measured by satellite, has increased steadily at a rate of about 1.5 deg C per century. That is nothing to be worried about. I hope it continues. The forecasts are increasingly divergent from reality. At some point, that will have to be recognized. I am a retired physicist. I don’t have any political ax to grind. I read the papers on both sides of the argument. Mainly, I look at the tropospheric temperature record. I claim that the models are disproven, since reality is well below the lowest warming forecasts and has been for decades. https://www.drroyspencer.com/2021/06/uah-global-temperature-update-for-may-2021-0-08-deg-c/ https://www.drroyspencer.com/2021/06/uah-global-temperature-...
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  So what’s going on that the environmental scientists largely seem to agree that we’re headed toward a cliff? Are they just bad at science? Or is their science just being wildly miscommunicated by the media et al? How do you reconcile your “it’s all good” with the popular perception of climate science?