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To some, Apple Daily represents democratic values such as a free press. Others view it as tabloid trash. I see it as an important tool of innovation in media. L
by ilamont 5y ago
To some, Apple Daily represents democratic values such as a free press. Others view it as tabloid trash. I see it as an important tool of innovation in media. Lai pushed the envelope for Chinese language media, taking newsgathering and publishing far further than peer publications in Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Some of his innovations - such as 3D news event simulations that Lai's Next Media began publishing in the 2000s - made an impact far beyond Hong Kong and Taiwan (https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE6AS04Q20101129 https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE6AS04Q20101129)
It's sad to see this entrepreneurial news venture come to an end like this. It's criminal that Lai and his top editors have been thrown in jail.
- agnesv 5y agoI would say to the majority of HK Apple Daily represents freedom and democracy, few refers it as “trash”
- ilamont 5y agoIn Taiwan it had a sensationalistic reputation ... and not everyone thought that was a good thing.
- agnesv 5y agoAgreed that on TW, but for the HK one what it represents is very important to the citizens
- frogcoder 5y agoYeah, agreed. While I think it's a trashy tabloid, it's also less biased comparing to other media in Taiwan. Since other news sources are also becoming sensationalist and gossipy if not already, I ended up read Apple Daily more often. Not an optimal situation unfortunately.
- nicochrome 5y agoThe majority of Hong Kong people believe ridiculous conspiracy theories, have anti-immigration sentiments, and racist ways of thinking, worse so because racial discrimination is just a way of life for many in HK, so I wouldn't say majority rules is the best argument here. Hong Kong isn't this shining jewel of liberalism by any means. All of it just gives China more justification for their actions.
- mcny 5y agoJapan also treats non Japanese people differently. Nobody says anything bad about Japan. My opinion is Hong Kong people have the right to keep mainland Chinese people out of Hong Kong. Why should we be afraid of China PR?
- trainsplanes 5y ago>Japan also treats non Japanese people differently. Nobody says anything bad about Japan. What? I see claims of Japanese racism everywhere on the internet. A load of people seem to think it's one of the most racist countries on earth. Yet in my 5 years here, and as someone visibly foreign, I've never been treated differently from a local. If anything, being treated completely normally put a lot of pressure on me early on since the only thing holding me back was my own lack of language ability.
- ronsor 5y ago> Account created 1 hour I suspect the CCP shills have been deployed.
- sudosysgen 5y agoCommenting on this subject will follow your account on HN forever. Random people comment in my posts to say that I didn't toe the official line on China every so often, and thankfully they're down voted. I have a pseudonymous account, so I don't care so much. But if I had an account with my name on it, I certainly would consider making a throwaway. It's unlikely that this is a "CCP shill", rather it's very probably someone that doesn't want to face real life repercussions for their honestly held beliefs.
- dang 5y agoThis breaks the site guidelines. Please read them and stick to the rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. They're there for very good reasons. If you want more explanation, there is years' worth at these links: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20-recycling%20chin&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- hnfong 5y agoIt depends on which majority you're talking about. I think the more balanced sentiment (which I've seen across my friends and a couple "KOLs") is that -- it's a trash tabloid, and it's also fighting for freedom and democracy. It's both, and given the current situation it is in, most people are willing to overlook its past as a trashy tabloid and voice support for it. (IMHO that doesn't make it less trash though.)
- agnesv 5y agoMajority of Hong Kong. Can’t quite get how balanced the sentiment is as seen from your friends and… KOLs? Seriously? Most people have always supported Apple Daily, not just because of the situation. And honestly I’ve never heard of anyone referring it as trashy tabloid, I mean… even those who oppose it know it is a proper newspaper.
- Proven 5y ago> Others view it as tabloid trash. Is that a crime? They're less trash than the commie-backed toilet paper media, but those are just opinions and not rights. In a free country the both would have the right to operate.