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> Apple TV still doesn't have hands free voice control Yes it does. I use it everyday. Which Apple TV do you have? > Apple Macbooks have suffered immensely wi

> Apple TV still doesn't have hands free voice control Yes it does. I use it everyday. Which Apple TV do you have? > Apple Macbooks have suffered immensely with the near useless touch bar and terrible keyboard. Still the best laptops in the market by a mile. > Thinness as a feature seems to override everything else. Many recent products have actually been thicker. New iPhone is thicker/heavier. New iPad is thicker/heavier. AirPods Pro are chunkier than regular AirPods. AirPods Max are some of the heaviest headphones in the market. Their new Mac Pro is a massive, modular beast. etc etc > Including how there's still no word on the VR / AR unit, while Facebook mops the floor. Apple is never first to market. But when they do enter, they tend to wipe the market clean. They also never talk about unreleased products. > The only light in the darkness is the M1 chip. This chip and associated tech will power their entire ecosystem and make every product better.

chaostheory 5y ago
> Yes it does. I use it everyday. Which Apple TV do you have? 4k - 1 model older than M1. I don't mind buying a Homepod to enable it (I'm not happy about it, but less happy about being forced to do it with iOS devices not designed explicitly for hearing you anywhere in the room), but to my knowledge commands from the Homepods won't make it to Apple TV. Am I wrong? > Still the best laptops in the market by a mile. They are still considerably worse than older Macbooks, since thinness and removing the ability to upgrader hardware were the priorities. The only thing that keeps me in the Apple computer ecosystem is Mac OS. > New iPhone is thicker/heavier. New iPad is thicker/heavier. AirPods Pro are chunkier than regular AirPods. AirPods Max are some of the heaviest headphones in the market. That's a great trend since Ive left. Looking at the new iMac line was disheartening.
- askafriend 5y ago
  > 4k - 1 model older than M1. I don't mind buying a Homepod to enable it (I'm not happy about it, but less happy about being forced to do it with iOS devices not designed explicitly for hearing you anywhere in the room), but to my knowledge commands from the Homepods won't make it to Apple TV. Am I wrong? My brain didn't register the "hands-free" part of your comment. I think you're partially right but not completely. I have a pair of HomePods hooked up to my Apple TV 4k and I can do basic hands-free commands like "Hey Siri, pause", "Hey Siri, continue", or "Hey Siri, go back 20 seconds". But more advanced commands like "Hey Siri, open YouTube" don't work - you still need the remote to navigate around afaik. I agree with you though, it would be cool to have much more advanced support with HomePods and Apple TV. I want to be able to navigate the interface with no remote at all.
  - interpol_p 5y ago
    I'm an Apple user at home, but Google really has Apple beat on the voice control stuff I set up a Google Nest speaker thing for a friend's parents (they were all Android users, so it seemed like the best fit). I connected it to their network, plugged it in, then said "Hey Google, turn on the TV" — their smart TV turned on. I said "Hey Google, play Cory Carson on Netflix", and it opened Netflix on the smart TV and started playing an episode of the kids' show I was blown away because I had no idea what TV they had, how it was connected, and didn't do anything to set it up other than connecting the Google Nest speaker to their WiFi I really wish my HomePod + AppleTV could do that! The best I get is "Hey Siri, turn on the living room TV" and even that only works by the grace of HDMI CEC (randomly, it will just turn on the AppleTV and will fail to turn on the TV) The Google Nest speaker was able to turn on a random smart TV in the same room with zero setup, and not even a direct connection. Play specific shows and more. My HomePod + AppleTV can't do anything close to that All that said, I refuse to allow any smart TV in my house to be connected to WiFi. So I doubt the Nest solution would work for me. It was just impressive to see it in action
    - chaostheory 5y ago
      I have Alexa, Siri, and Google Home in the house. Like you Google’s voice assistant blew me away, so much that I decided to switch to the Google / Nest ecosystem as in buying everything Google like their security system. Fast forward one month and Google cancels their Nest security system, and that’s also when I realized I could never depend on a company as flaky and unreliable as Google to buy hardware from. I’m hoping that Apple steps up their game, but it’s been 8 years already, and only now are they release a less expensive version of the HomePod. I don’t feel that Apple knows what people want anymore which leaves Amazon to take continue dominating the space with their cheap products. In Amazon’s defense, not all their smart home products are bad cheap and no one is still close to really touching them in that space.
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    On the other hand if they had no touch control on the Apple TV people would be complaining about how it’s an always on spying device.

chaostheory 5y ago

> Yes it does. I use it everyday. Which Apple TV do you have? 4k - 1 model older than M1. I don't mind buying a Homepod to enable it (I'm not happy about it, but less happy about being forced to do it with iOS devices not designed explicitly for hearing you anywhere in the room), but to my knowledge commands from the Homepods won't make it to Apple TV. Am I wrong? > Still the best laptops in the market by a mile. They are still considerably worse than older Macbooks, since thinness and removing the ability to upgrader hardware were the priorities. The only thing that keeps me in the Apple computer ecosystem is Mac OS. > New iPhone is thicker/heavier. New iPad is thicker/heavier. AirPods Pro are chunkier than regular AirPods. AirPods Max are some of the heaviest headphones in the market. That's a great trend since Ive left. Looking at the new iMac line was disheartening.

askafriend 5y ago
> 4k - 1 model older than M1. I don't mind buying a Homepod to enable it (I'm not happy about it, but less happy about being forced to do it with iOS devices not designed explicitly for hearing you anywhere in the room), but to my knowledge commands from the Homepods won't make it to Apple TV. Am I wrong? My brain didn't register the "hands-free" part of your comment. I think you're partially right but not completely. I have a pair of HomePods hooked up to my Apple TV 4k and I can do basic hands-free commands like "Hey Siri, pause", "Hey Siri, continue", or "Hey Siri, go back 20 seconds". But more advanced commands like "Hey Siri, open YouTube" don't work - you still need the remote to navigate around afaik. I agree with you though, it would be cool to have much more advanced support with HomePods and Apple TV. I want to be able to navigate the interface with no remote at all.
- interpol_p 5y ago
  I'm an Apple user at home, but Google really has Apple beat on the voice control stuff I set up a Google Nest speaker thing for a friend's parents (they were all Android users, so it seemed like the best fit). I connected it to their network, plugged it in, then said "Hey Google, turn on the TV" — their smart TV turned on. I said "Hey Google, play Cory Carson on Netflix", and it opened Netflix on the smart TV and started playing an episode of the kids' show I was blown away because I had no idea what TV they had, how it was connected, and didn't do anything to set it up other than connecting the Google Nest speaker to their WiFi I really wish my HomePod + AppleTV could do that! The best I get is "Hey Siri, turn on the living room TV" and even that only works by the grace of HDMI CEC (randomly, it will just turn on the AppleTV and will fail to turn on the TV) The Google Nest speaker was able to turn on a random smart TV in the same room with zero setup, and not even a direct connection. Play specific shows and more. My HomePod + AppleTV can't do anything close to that All that said, I refuse to allow any smart TV in my house to be connected to WiFi. So I doubt the Nest solution would work for me. It was just impressive to see it in action
  - chaostheory 5y ago
    I have Alexa, Siri, and Google Home in the house. Like you Google’s voice assistant blew me away, so much that I decided to switch to the Google / Nest ecosystem as in buying everything Google like their security system. Fast forward one month and Google cancels their Nest security system, and that’s also when I realized I could never depend on a company as flaky and unreliable as Google to buy hardware from. I’m hoping that Apple steps up their game, but it’s been 8 years already, and only now are they release a less expensive version of the HomePod. I don’t feel that Apple knows what people want anymore which leaves Amazon to take continue dominating the space with their cheap products. In Amazon’s defense, not all their smart home products are bad cheap and no one is still close to really touching them in that space.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  On the other hand if they had no touch control on the Apple TV people would be complaining about how it’s an always on spying device.