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How far do you want to take this argument? Warning people about someone's creepy behavior isn't a punishment, it's a warning that they might violate my moral c

by avs733 5y ago

How far do you want to take this argument? Warning people about someone's creepy behavior isn't a punishment, it's a warning that they might violate my moral code and I should probably avoid them. Is me avoiding them punishment? Should I then be punished? not punished? Define punishment...

lelanthran 5y ago
> Warning people about someone's creepy behavior isn't a punishment, Until someone goes around warning other people that they think that you act creepy around children? How do you define creepy? It's completely subjective. That's why the courts are objective. Making the argument for mobbing and witch-hunts almost never ends well.
- avs733 5y ago
  it's telling that you think courts are objective...
  - lelanthran 5y ago
    > it's telling that you think courts are objective... So, if you think that the court system, with it's experts, and centuries of experience, with fallbacks and checks and balances, with emphasis on applying the law with regard to precedent and societal input, with appeals and formal processes that must be followed ... is unable to be objective, what makes you think that random people with an actual specified bias is more objective? I dunno about you, but I'll take my chances in court over someone who literally shouts their bias to the world any day. All the arguments for mob justice that you are attempting to make are the same arguments the KKK made for their justice.
    - Jcowell 5y ago
      There’s a difference between able to be objective and being objective. Anyone who believe that’s American Courts, or rather, courts are objective is someone I hope has a really good lawyer if they ever go to court.
      - visarga 5y ago
        Are you aligning yourself here to the "master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" and proposing we distrust the systems in our society?

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How far do you want to take this argument? Warning people about someone's creepy behavior isn't a punishment, it's a warning that they might violate my moral c

by avs733 5y ago

lelanthran 5y ago
> Warning people about someone's creepy behavior isn't a punishment, Until someone goes around warning other people that they think that you act creepy around children? How do you define creepy? It's completely subjective. That's why the courts are objective. Making the argument for mobbing and witch-hunts almost never ends well.
- avs733 5y ago
  it's telling that you think courts are objective...
  - lelanthran 5y ago
    > it's telling that you think courts are objective... So, if you think that the court system, with it's experts, and centuries of experience, with fallbacks and checks and balances, with emphasis on applying the law with regard to precedent and societal input, with appeals and formal processes that must be followed ... is unable to be objective, what makes you think that random people with an actual specified bias is more objective? I dunno about you, but I'll take my chances in court over someone who literally shouts their bias to the world any day. All the arguments for mob justice that you are attempting to make are the same arguments the KKK made for their justice.
    - Jcowell 5y ago
      There’s a difference between able to be objective and being objective. Anyone who believe that’s American Courts, or rather, courts are objective is someone I hope has a really good lawyer if they ever go to court.
      - visarga 5y ago
        Are you aligning yourself here to the "master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" and proposing we distrust the systems in our society?