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We had a class called "Career and Life Management" in High School. It was kind of trivial stupid stuff, but then again, it may have been useful to someone who d

We had a class called "Career and Life Management" in High School. It was kind of trivial stupid stuff, but then again, it may have been useful to someone who did not get good information from their parents. Edit: quick google suggests it still exists: https://education.alberta.ca/media/160199/calm.pdf https://education.alberta.ca/media/160199/calm.pdf

diydsp 5y ago
As an older person, the issue i see is most of these aren't really a problem until later in life. E.g. adolescents can eat all kinds of bad food. It will have little real impact until roughly late 30s. Earlier financial literacy will help to a point, but bolsters are needed every decade. Same with family relations. Motivated people like me fine, but many families and people just don't get the right push and it hurts to watch people suffer needlessly.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  If you look around you will see more and more far kids these days. It might not kill you to be a fat twelve year old but it can hardly be considered of no real impact.
- BeFlatXIII 5y ago
  That’s the problem I have when people argue for the important ace of rigorous high school civics: the useful parts won’t prove to be useful until several years after graduation, so even a motivated student has ample time to forget (and the students know they’ll forget, so there’s even less motivation to learn in the first place)
  - diydsp 5y ago
    Exactly. The consequences are too abstract to rate as important.
- Zababa 5y ago
  > E.g. adolescents can eat all kinds of bad food. It will have little real impact until roughly late 30s. 20% of teens in America are obese. I think you underestimate how much of a problem it is. Here's a source https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/childhood.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/childhood.html
  - diydsp 5y ago
    Yeah im well aware of that. But teenage obesity is not nearly as much of a problem as e.g. adult diabetes (~33%), breast cancer and colorectal cancer. Teens don't watch their peers struggle in and out of the car in the hospital parking lot for surgery. We need followups to adolescent health education in adulthood.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      Adult diabetes is mostly a follow up to teenage obesity though. Being obese is not fun, even if you're just a teen. > We need followups to adolescent health education in adulthood. Sure, but having a basis in high school wouldn't hurt.
notatoad 5y ago
i remember CALM class from my high school, and i remember it being a complete blow-off that was taught by the teacher that obviously got the short end of the stick, and none of the students took it seriously. i learned a lot more in casual life advice from good teachers than i did from the teacher who was forced to teach a government defined "life advice" course. i wish there was a reliable way to impart that important advice to high-school students, but i don't think a government-enforced cirriculum is the way to do it.

diydsp 5y ago

As an older person, the issue i see is most of these aren't really a problem until later in life. E.g. adolescents can eat all kinds of bad food. It will have little real impact until roughly late 30s. Earlier financial literacy will help to a point, but bolsters are needed every decade. Same with family relations. Motivated people like me fine, but many families and people just don't get the right push and it hurts to watch people suffer needlessly.

whatshisface 5y ago
If you look around you will see more and more far kids these days. It might not kill you to be a fat twelve year old but it can hardly be considered of no real impact.
BeFlatXIII 5y ago
That’s the problem I have when people argue for the important ace of rigorous high school civics: the useful parts won’t prove to be useful until several years after graduation, so even a motivated student has ample time to forget (and the students know they’ll forget, so there’s even less motivation to learn in the first place)
- diydsp 5y ago
  Exactly. The consequences are too abstract to rate as important.
Zababa 5y ago
> E.g. adolescents can eat all kinds of bad food. It will have little real impact until roughly late 30s. 20% of teens in America are obese. I think you underestimate how much of a problem it is. Here's a source https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/childhood.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/childhood.html
- diydsp 5y ago
  Yeah im well aware of that. But teenage obesity is not nearly as much of a problem as e.g. adult diabetes (~33%), breast cancer and colorectal cancer. Teens don't watch their peers struggle in and out of the car in the hospital parking lot for surgery. We need followups to adolescent health education in adulthood.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Adult diabetes is mostly a follow up to teenage obesity though. Being obese is not fun, even if you're just a teen. > We need followups to adolescent health education in adulthood. Sure, but having a basis in high school wouldn't hurt.

notatoad 5y ago

i remember CALM class from my high school, and i remember it being a complete blow-off that was taught by the teacher that obviously got the short end of the stick, and none of the students took it seriously. i learned a lot more in casual life advice from good teachers than i did from the teacher who was forced to teach a government defined "life advice" course. i wish there was a reliable way to impart that important advice to high-school students, but i don't think a government-enforced cirriculum is the way to do it.