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Like what exactly? What is Windows missing? They have a way to integrate with Android phones, I can share my Galaxy's screen with PC and use apps that way even.

Like what exactly? What is Windows missing? They have a way to integrate with Android phones, I can share my Galaxy's screen with PC and use apps that way even. They are working on AR stuff with Hololens and VR. You can do wireless screen sharing, sync your Microsoft Edge tabs, do 3D audio in games. I was all in the Apple ecosystem the past couple years except for the Watch. And I'm struggling to think of something that's impossible to do with Windows and non-Apple devices besides Airdrop and that didn't even work half the time between my iPhone and Mac mini. Sidecar is a cool feature to have built in, but apps like Duet and Astropad do the same thing... And I don't think it's a bad thing that MS doesn't Sherlock devs either...

arghnoname 5y ago
Windows is a gigantic market so in general the vast majority of things one could do in MacOS are going to end up being possible in Windows (assuming Apple even was the first to market some feature in the first place). It's almost unthinkable that some in-software feature that a lot of people like can be done in an Apple OS and not a Microsoft/Android OS. The question is not whether it can be done, but how easily it can be done. If you have to jailbreak your phone or cobble together a collection of different applications to simulate the experience, for 80%+ of people that's basically equivalent to impossible.
- salamandersauce 5y ago
  You don't have to jailbreak your phone or root it to accomplish these things. Stuff like MS "Your Phone" for integrating your Android phone and Windows is built into some devices like those from Samsung and Windows will even walk you through the steps at first boot. Most of this stuff is built in and I'm not entirely sure app installs are onerous. 80%+ seems a little ridiculous.
- greggman3 5y ago
  you mean like play all the VR games or too AAA games in general? I own both. From my POV I'm able to do more on Windows even if I prefer MacOS for day to day use and iOS for my phone (though again can do more on Android)
thekyle 5y ago
I'm curious what you use the Galaxy screen share feature in Windows for, because I've tried it a few times and always found it to be a bad user experience.
- salamandersauce 5y ago
  Not much lol. Checking my expensive Japanese-English dictionary that I only have on Android on occasion.
askafriend 5y ago
If you have Apple Watch, you can unlock your Mac instantly - no password input or TouchID required. If you have Apple Watch, you can authenticate services on your computer just by double-tapping the Watch side-button. It also unlocks your nearby iPhone if you have the Watch on. You can trigger Do Not Disturb across the ecosystem from any of your devices. Find My lets you keep track of all devices in the ecosystem with a global lost and found mesh network built in. Apple Pay works seamlessly across iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, and iPhone. My Mac uses my iPhone's FaceID or a confirmation on my Watch to authenticate payments - no setup or weird configuration required. AirDrop works perfectly for me with all my devices. I can beam documents and data from device to device without thinking about it. Handoff works across all my devices. I can start an e-mail on my iPad and continue on my Mac instantly. I can see the charging/battery state of my iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch, and Apple Pencil from any device in the ecosystem, including Mac. AirPlay works across my iPad, iPhone, HomePods, Apple TV, Mac, and even Apple Watch. AirPlay 2 is incredible and has no delay. Rock solid connection - much better than any other protocol I've used. If I get a new device, setup and integration with the rest of my devices is instant - no configuration required. This is especially great with AirPods - I don't have to pair them with each device. I just pair with 1 and I'm good to go on the rest. Apple Store support for everything in my ecosystem. etc etc etc
- salamandersauce 5y ago
  That first one sounds like throwing away security. Unlock my computer because my watch is nearby? No thanks. Why even have a password or TouchID at that point especially when the watch has none of that... I can configure Windows to lock my PC if my phone is not nearby. Which makes a ton more sense than unlocking it if it is. As for the rest, I've never had much success with all that being "seamless". I could hardly ever get my Airpods to show the battery level of the case by opening it and holding it near my iPhone.
  - askafriend 5y ago
    > That first one sounds like throwing away security. Unlock my computer because my watch is nearby? No thanks. Why even have a password or TouchID at that point especially when the watch has none of that... Well the Watch has to be on your wrist, unlocked, authenticated with your iCloud account and close enough to trigger NFC. It's actually one of the best non-fitness related things about the Watch imo. Point taken on some of the features not always being seamless but I've had much more success than not and I really appreciate all the ways the ecosystem works together - I can't imagine not having some of these features.

arghnoname 5y ago

Windows is a gigantic market so in general the vast majority of things one could do in MacOS are going to end up being possible in Windows (assuming Apple even was the first to market some feature in the first place). It's almost unthinkable that some in-software feature that a lot of people like can be done in an Apple OS and not a Microsoft/Android OS. The question is not whether it can be done, but how easily it can be done. If you have to jailbreak your phone or cobble together a collection of different applications to simulate the experience, for 80%+ of people that's basically equivalent to impossible.

salamandersauce 5y ago
You don't have to jailbreak your phone or root it to accomplish these things. Stuff like MS "Your Phone" for integrating your Android phone and Windows is built into some devices like those from Samsung and Windows will even walk you through the steps at first boot. Most of this stuff is built in and I'm not entirely sure app installs are onerous. 80%+ seems a little ridiculous.
greggman3 5y ago
you mean like play all the VR games or too AAA games in general? I own both. From my POV I'm able to do more on Windows even if I prefer MacOS for day to day use and iOS for my phone (though again can do more on Android)

thekyle 5y ago

I'm curious what you use the Galaxy screen share feature in Windows for, because I've tried it a few times and always found it to be a bad user experience.

salamandersauce 5y ago
Not much lol. Checking my expensive Japanese-English dictionary that I only have on Android on occasion.

askafriend 5y ago

If you have Apple Watch, you can unlock your Mac instantly - no password input or TouchID required. If you have Apple Watch, you can authenticate services on your computer just by double-tapping the Watch side-button. It also unlocks your nearby iPhone if you have the Watch on. You can trigger Do Not Disturb across the ecosystem from any of your devices. Find My lets you keep track of all devices in the ecosystem with a global lost and found mesh network built in. Apple Pay works seamlessly across iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, and iPhone. My Mac uses my iPhone's FaceID or a confirmation on my Watch to authenticate payments - no setup or weird configuration required. AirDrop works perfectly for me with all my devices. I can beam documents and data from device to device without thinking about it. Handoff works across all my devices. I can start an e-mail on my iPad and continue on my Mac instantly. I can see the charging/battery state of my iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch, and Apple Pencil from any device in the ecosystem, including Mac. AirPlay works across my iPad, iPhone, HomePods, Apple TV, Mac, and even Apple Watch. AirPlay 2 is incredible and has no delay. Rock solid connection - much better than any other protocol I've used. If I get a new device, setup and integration with the rest of my devices is instant - no configuration required. This is especially great with AirPods - I don't have to pair them with each device. I just pair with 1 and I'm good to go on the rest. Apple Store support for everything in my ecosystem. etc etc etc

salamandersauce 5y ago
That first one sounds like throwing away security. Unlock my computer because my watch is nearby? No thanks. Why even have a password or TouchID at that point especially when the watch has none of that... I can configure Windows to lock my PC if my phone is not nearby. Which makes a ton more sense than unlocking it if it is. As for the rest, I've never had much success with all that being "seamless". I could hardly ever get my Airpods to show the battery level of the case by opening it and holding it near my iPhone.
- askafriend 5y ago
  > That first one sounds like throwing away security. Unlock my computer because my watch is nearby? No thanks. Why even have a password or TouchID at that point especially when the watch has none of that... Well the Watch has to be on your wrist, unlocked, authenticated with your iCloud account and close enough to trigger NFC. It's actually one of the best non-fitness related things about the Watch imo. Point taken on some of the features not always being seamless but I've had much more success than not and I really appreciate all the ways the ecosystem works together - I can't imagine not having some of these features.