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Please don’t spread misinformation. There is ample real world and laboratory evidence that mRNA vaccines prevent asymptomatic infection and transmission https:

Please don’t spread misinformation. There is ample real world and laboratory evidence that mRNA vaccines prevent asymptomatic infection and transmission https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

Miner49er 5y ago
You're both spreading misinformation. It clearly says that they "reduce asymptomatic infection and transmission", not prevent.
- PraetorianGourd 5y ago
  Reduction is a form of prevention. For an unknown quantity of the vaccinated, transmission appears to be prevented. The unknown quantity is important but we are learning more every day.
  - ppf 5y ago
    How does the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine, differ from the reduction in transmission due to being unvaccinated but currently asymptomatic?
    - PraetorianGourd 5y ago
      The studies and real world data thus far show a reduction in _all_ infections, not just symptomatic infection. The trials for approval only really measured symptomatic infection, so it was unknown whether the vaccines prevented all infections (sterilizing immunity) or just symptomatic infections. So the difference is that a non-vaccinated asymptomatic carrier can still infect others as they are _infected_. Whereas the vaccinated person never becomes an asymptomatic carrier in the first place.
      - ppf 5y ago
        >The studies and real world data thus far show a reduction in _all_ infections >Whereas the vaccinated person never becomes an asymptomatic carrier in the first place. I'd like to see which studies those are. "A reduction in infections" is also not the same as "the vaccinated never become asymptomatic carriers".
        PraetorianGourd 5y ago
        It isn't absolutes and you should know that. It does not prevent all infections, or all symptomatic infections. It reduces both. Do condoms prevent all pregnancies? No, do they prevent many? Yes. And if I don't want a baby, I am wearing a condom, even if they aren't perfect. I am not going to say "welp, condoms are not 100% perfect, so I am going in raw!"

Miner49er 5y ago

You're both spreading misinformation. It clearly says that they "reduce asymptomatic infection and transmission", not prevent.

PraetorianGourd 5y ago
Reduction is a form of prevention. For an unknown quantity of the vaccinated, transmission appears to be prevented. The unknown quantity is important but we are learning more every day.
- ppf 5y ago
  How does the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine, differ from the reduction in transmission due to being unvaccinated but currently asymptomatic?
  - PraetorianGourd 5y ago
    The studies and real world data thus far show a reduction in _all_ infections, not just symptomatic infection. The trials for approval only really measured symptomatic infection, so it was unknown whether the vaccines prevented all infections (sterilizing immunity) or just symptomatic infections. So the difference is that a non-vaccinated asymptomatic carrier can still infect others as they are _infected_. Whereas the vaccinated person never becomes an asymptomatic carrier in the first place.
    - ppf 5y ago
      >The studies and real world data thus far show a reduction in _all_ infections >Whereas the vaccinated person never becomes an asymptomatic carrier in the first place. I'd like to see which studies those are. "A reduction in infections" is also not the same as "the vaccinated never become asymptomatic carriers".
      - PraetorianGourd 5y ago
        It isn't absolutes and you should know that. It does not prevent all infections, or all symptomatic infections. It reduces both. Do condoms prevent all pregnancies? No, do they prevent many? Yes. And if I don't want a baby, I am wearing a condom, even if they aren't perfect. I am not going to say "welp, condoms are not 100% perfect, so I am going in raw!"