>So when plants consciously grow edible parts to themselves in exchange for seed dispersal, Depends on the plant and the kind of life cycle they have, in some

>So when plants consciously grow edible parts to themselves in exchange for seed dispersal, Depends on the plant and the kind of life cycle they have, in some cases, yes they slowly die after. Even if they don't, think of human pregnancy and childbirth. Human mothers suffer a fair amount even during pregnancy as their nutrients are shared between their young and they grow inside them. When plants produce fruits and seeds, they stop vegetative growth for the duration of this, the send any available nutrients to the seeds and fruit, thereby depriving the rest of the plant of needed nutrients. Post fruit production, it typically takes at least a season before vegetative growth begins. >Do they suffer when they drop leaves every autumn? Yes, they go dormant and can't feed themselves or grow. Sometimes overwintering trees or plants will die from the stress. When I say suffering, I mostly mean, show visible signs of either stress or delayed growth, or other things plants typically 'suffer' from when mistreated or grown in poor conditions. Whether it's the same as an animal suffering, I don't know and I doubt anyone could know or if it even matters. Animals and plants are fundamentally different, the way they display their 'suffering' is not really comparable. What we see as suffering in animals comes from our own experiences with suffering. We have no possible way to empathize or experience plant suffering so we have no actual way to ever truly understand how they may or may not 'feel' the same way we ever will with animals.