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• whimsicalism 5y ago
  Okay, so beliefs are uncorrelated with action. In no way does that suggest that there is a tradeoff, and if anything, is evidence for my hypothesis - people are happy to talk about beliefs without any of that translating into real world action. Talking about beliefs in one way only trades off with talking about those beliefs in another way.
  • 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
    > people are happy to talk about beliefs without any of that translating into real world action That’s exactly what is decried by the original article as being detrimental to activism. The point of activism is to take action to effect meaningful change in the world.
    • whimsicalism 5y ago
      Sure. My point is simple: 1. Every movement has the vast majority people as quiet supporters, not taking concrete action in the streets or wherever. This is not unique to meme activism. 2. I don't buy that meme activism actually trades off with physical action. I do buy that meme activism doesn't translate into physical action, but I don't think that those people would be taking physical action if they didn't have the memes. None of the evidence you've presented is contrary to that hypothesis, and if anything, supports it.
      • 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
        “ Second, more time spent online may take away from more valuable activities, including social contacts offline, sleeping, or reading books.” http://www.com.cuhk.edu.hk/ccpos/b5/pdf/QoL10.pdf http://www.com.cuhk.edu.hk/ccpos/b5/pdf/QoL10.pdf The point of activism is to effect change, not to be an echo chamber.