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If it accomplished its goal, then it was effective. Are there other goals to accomplish? Sure, but to say this wasn’t effective is incorrect.
by luffapi 5y ago
If it accomplished its goal, then it was effective. Are there other goals to accomplish? Sure, but to say this wasn’t effective is incorrect.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoI’ll grant that it meets the definition of being striking, but not that it meets the intended goals of activism. The entire point of the article is that this style of pseudo-activism debases activism, as a whole.
- luffapi 5y agoWhen you have to fight lobbyists, effective activism looks different. You try to cut off funding and political support. One could argue that there is already widespread support for these ideas, now it’s just a matter of doing battle against the establishment in real politik to achieve results.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago> Slogans and hashtags, used as shortcuts, give people the tools to express what appear to be clear policy goals, even though they have hardly grappled with the issue in its complexity. From the article. If there was already widespread support, it would already be an establishment position.
- luffapi 5y agoI wildly disagree with that statement. To suggest that money, political capital and many other things besides popular support are irrelevant, is disingenuous to say the least.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoI’m not sure where you are misreading me, but the authors point still stands that your “battle with the establishment of real politik” is evidence of the complexity of the situation not being fully addressed.
- luffapi 5y agoSomething doesn’t have to be fully addressed to be effective. You’re moving the goalposts.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoNot meeting the intended goals is the definition of ineffective.
- luffapi 5y agoIt did meet the intended goals. You and the author are just fabricating new goals that have nothing to do with the activism at hand.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoIf that’s the case, then you are simply waving things away that don’t meet your preconceived notions.
- luffapi 5y agoThat doesn’t make any sense, you can’t define other people’s goals. I’m sure 100% of the people who took issue with what Yang said are happy with the result of this effective activism.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoApparently your goal is to stifle dissent without consideration for the merits of that dissent?