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Well, one thing it's definitely very effective at is perpetuating itself to the exclusion of any kind of more thoughtful or complex activism. This is probably a
by makomk 5y ago
Well, one thing it's definitely very effective at is perpetuating itself to the exclusion of any kind of more thoughtful or complex activism. This is probably a problem.
- mistermann 5y agoTrue, but is this the fault of memes, or perhaps more so due to the fact that an internet platform specifically designed for nuanced, accurate, high quality conversations about complex topics does not exist (and is rarely discussed)...not to mention the questionable availability of a sufficiently skilled in thinking and discussion userbase?
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoThis very platform is founded on interesting discussion.
- mistermann 5y agoDid you miss anything in my comment perhaps? Is internet discussion as implemented on HN the pinnacle of what can be achieved by humanity? This seems like a worthwhile topic of discussion.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoIt could very well be both the pinnacle (or an approximation of it) of humanity and a worthwhile topic of discussion.
- mistermann 5y agoI think it would be cool if HN had meta-discussions now and then where people could throw out various different ideas, I don't recall there ever being such a thing here before though. I think it's an interesting idea (maybe not for HN, but in general): a social media platform whose functionality is (largely) designed/guided by the users.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoIronic that the fact that your comment is on a startup news discussion site, points out a glaring need in the public sphere, one which could be fulfilled by a startup, and it gets downvoted to the point of being grayed out.
- mistermann 5y agoIronic, and utterly fascinating if you really think about it. And it is not a one off by the way, here elsewhere. In my experience, this is almost bordering on some sort of an unrealized constant in nature. An even better example I think is this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27581414 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27581414 That exchange blows my mind, the irony (and other things) is off the charts. Occam's razor would suggest Hanlon's razor as a satisfactory explanation for that conversation, but I am very skeptical.
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- watwut 5y agoWhat makes you say more thoughtful activism dont exist anymore? Whede I followed activists, their activity did not went down with these. Occasionally they uses them, occasionally not, occasionally they disagreed. But I did not seen them stop original activity or complain about memes all that much. It is way more often people who did not cared about activism who complain about lack of it due to memes. Like, not everyone has to care about activism, but it is odd to claim it dont exist anymore.