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> we're apparently not mature enough to have a discussion It needn't be people participating in the discussion that are flagging or downvoting things. It's bas
by Chris2048 5y ago
> we're apparently not mature enough to have a discussion
It needn't be people participating in the discussion that are flagging or downvoting things. It's basically censorship from an offended 3rd party.
> How "far" does a trans person have to go
In discussion like these I ask "How willing/confident are [they] in their argument that they are willing to defend it?". The censorship of this thread aside, I often find the prime argument of these things is a tactic of dismissal; or censorship of the opposition. A good counterpoint is labelled offensive, and on that basis buried.
The obvious counterpoints are:
Jessica Yaniv, a toxic transwoman who pretty blatantly abuses the good-faith privileges enjoyed by many trans-people; specifically: labelling beauticians who refused to wax her testicles as transphobic.
Karen White, a violent trans-woman, who while legally male AND convicted paedophile and multiple-rapist, was put in a female prison where they managed to assault/rape female inmates.
If you can't answer to these (possibly-)worst case scenarios, then your worldview is missing something.
EDIT: downvotes, yes no replies. says it all.
- dang 5y agoWould you please stop posting flamewar comments and please drop the tedious meta complaints about downvotes and whatnot? None of that is helping. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Chris2048 5y agoI didn't raise the topic, I consider the comments I posted as perfectly reasonable, I have not posted anything I would consider off-topic to the original post, nor have I posted "flamebait". Nor do I find anything I posted "tedious". If that's not enough, why not explicitly expand the guidelines (which are v. subjective), rather than leave it open to ad-hoc policing? When you describe my comments as "flamebait" you are making a personal, non-subjective judgement, and are thereby justifying the very tactical downvotes I am complaining about. Now the very people flagging these questions will continue, thinking "even the mod agrees with me". Not only are you not helping, you are contributing to that. Let me ask you this: have you ever warned (or publicly so) someone for flagging a perfectly reasonable comment? Because that's flamebait. That's what pisses people off. It's in your power as mod to curb that. Why not reverse these[0] malicious flaggings, instead of warn people like me for complaining about it? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27578904 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27578904