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I'm sure all of this will get fixed, it was obviously rushed like the vaccine, mask policy, lockdown, and everything else. In a couple of years they'll fix it,

I'm sure all of this will get fixed, it was obviously rushed like the vaccine, mask policy, lockdown, and everything else. In a couple of years they'll fix it, just like Healthcare.gov.

wffurr 5y ago
It wasn't rushed enough. A basic HTML form with appropriate labels is perfectly accessible and super easy to write. It's custom controls and using JavaScript to make everything interactive that screws up accessibility, not just for blind users, but keyboard users too.
- nobodyandproud 5y ago
  I hear this all the time and yet…nearly all of the websites failed. This tells me that “you have to go out of your way…” doesn’t tell the whole story. There’s clearly a disconnect between best-practice in-the-field UIs & framework; and what semantic web recommends. Rather than attacking the government websites and businesses, pushing tooling to enforce good semantics would surely would be better?
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  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    Criticism isn't attack. Nearly all had some issue. It doesn't mean they were completely unusable. The disconnect is between common practice and good practice. Low contrast was 1 of the common problems. Usually this is a choice. And it's trivial to check.
  - wffurr 5y ago
    It never fails to amaze me how seemingly impossible it is to get a web development firm to just write: <form> <label>Full name: <input type="text"></label> <label>Date of birth: <input type="date"></label> <label>Zip code: <input type="text"></label> <input type="submit" value="Submit"> </form> And then sprinkle a little CSS on top to make the colors match the client's theme. It's really simple.
    - userbinator 5y ago
      That's because web developers seem to have the notion that if it's not complex and hard, they have a hard time justifying their pay. So they make it complex, and when something like accessibility or browser support inevitably fails, they can charge more to "fix" it --- by of course adding even more complexity, and the cycle repeats.

I'm sure all of this will get fixed, it was obviously rushed like the vaccine, mask policy, lockdown, and everything else. In a couple of years they'll fix it, just like Healthcare.gov.

wffurr 5y ago

It wasn't rushed enough. A basic HTML form with appropriate labels is perfectly accessible and super easy to write. It's custom controls and using JavaScript to make everything interactive that screws up accessibility, not just for blind users, but keyboard users too.

nobodyandproud 5y ago
I hear this all the time and yet…nearly all of the websites failed. This tells me that “you have to go out of your way…” doesn’t tell the whole story. There’s clearly a disconnect between best-practice in-the-field UIs & framework; and what semantic web recommends. Rather than attacking the government websites and businesses, pushing tooling to enforce good semantics would surely would be better?
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- pseudalopex 5y ago
  Criticism isn't attack. Nearly all had some issue. It doesn't mean they were completely unusable. The disconnect is between common practice and good practice. Low contrast was 1 of the common problems. Usually this is a choice. And it's trivial to check.
- wffurr 5y ago
  It never fails to amaze me how seemingly impossible it is to get a web development firm to just write: <form> <label>Full name: <input type="text"></label> <label>Date of birth: <input type="date"></label> <label>Zip code: <input type="text"></label> <input type="submit" value="Submit"> </form> And then sprinkle a little CSS on top to make the colors match the client's theme. It's really simple.
  - userbinator 5y ago
    That's because web developers seem to have the notion that if it's not complex and hard, they have a hard time justifying their pay. So they make it complex, and when something like accessibility or browser support inevitably fails, they can charge more to "fix" it --- by of course adding even more complexity, and the cycle repeats.