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I disagree. You can find well paying contracting gigs and well paying employee contracts. From my anecdotal experience, finding these jobs require different set

I disagree. You can find well paying contracting gigs and well paying employee contracts. From my anecdotal experience, finding these jobs require different sets of skills and access to different people networks. Recruiters will rarely find you well paying contracting gigs but they can find you some good employee contracts. Contracting is more tax efficient with some planning and an investment strategy (for now, tax hikes and new ir35 are incoming). Last time I hired I couldn't find a junior with more than zero coding skills for less than 30k, so not sure what are you talking about. I assume there must be a market for cheap developers who can't code - probably all those guys that try to squeeze in during interviews without knowing how to code. I've also seen a bunch of seniors being underpaid on salaries that haven't been updated for literally 15 years - but if you're not job hopping in this industry, you won't go very far.

Nursie 5y ago
> You can find well paying contracting gigs and well paying employee contracts. I have virtually never seen an employed software role break six figures, let alone go significantly over. With contracting that's maybe not commonplace, but definitely achievable. > I couldn't find a junior with more than zero coding skills for less than 30k £30k might have been an exaggeration, but I frequently get inbox spam looking for experienced people in the £40-50k range. > if you're not job hopping in this industry, you won't go very far. I definitely agree with that.
- theriddlr 5y ago
  Outside London – in Bristol, Cookpad and Jump Trading pay £100k p.a.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    Cool. I know Starling Bank here in Southampton didn't completely balk at a six figure sum when I chatted to them a few months ago. AFAICT these are outliers though, whereas for contractors I'm pretty sure it's easier to break through that and earn half as much again. That said, if my info is out of date, and you really can achieve top money in the perm world then that's a really positive move for the UK market and something to be welcomed. I hope I'm wrong :)

Nursie 5y ago

> You can find well paying contracting gigs and well paying employee contracts. I have virtually never seen an employed software role break six figures, let alone go significantly over. With contracting that's maybe not commonplace, but definitely achievable. > I couldn't find a junior with more than zero coding skills for less than 30k £30k might have been an exaggeration, but I frequently get inbox spam looking for experienced people in the £40-50k range. > if you're not job hopping in this industry, you won't go very far. I definitely agree with that.

theriddlr 5y ago
Outside London – in Bristol, Cookpad and Jump Trading pay £100k p.a.
- Nursie 5y ago
  Cool. I know Starling Bank here in Southampton didn't completely balk at a six figure sum when I chatted to them a few months ago. AFAICT these are outliers though, whereas for contractors I'm pretty sure it's easier to break through that and earn half as much again. That said, if my info is out of date, and you really can achieve top money in the perm world then that's a really positive move for the UK market and something to be welcomed. I hope I'm wrong :)