I am aware, and that is my entire point. The battery is more or less the equivalent of the engine in the ICE. Internal combustion engines however have no prob

I am aware, and that is my entire point. The battery is more or less the equivalent of the engine in the ICE. Internal combustion engines however have no problems lasting for 10, 15, 30+ years if they are maintained. I know many people that have cars over 15 years old. It is yet to be seen how long battery packs of different design will last. Or if the drive to get more and more range out of these battery packs will push mfg's to squeeze more range sacrificing longevity as competition in the past increases . That is going to be a problem. This planned obsolescence model we have for cell phones, to cars with shorter and shorter product life spans is not good for anyone, not the environment, not poor people that generally depend on older used cars which makes electric uses cars at ticking time bomb... the solution can not be "just replace your $40-$60K car when the battery dies like your iPhone" that is moronic