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This is why public health insurance is so important and why I feel so lucky to be covered by one: my brother had brain hypoxia during birth and even in a countr

by plafl 5y ago

This is why public health insurance is so important and why I feel so lucky to be covered by one: my brother had brain hypoxia during birth and even in a country (Spain) with a solid public system it places considerable personal and financial strain on our family. I don't know about your legal system but in Spain at least it must be proved by the insurer that if you lie about a previous condition that lie is directly related to the payment they are trying to deny you.

smnrchrds 5y ago
That's a nice law. In Canada, most aspects of medical insurance are single payer, but other aspects (like out-of-country travel medical insurance) give too much latitude to the insurance companies. If you make any false statement when applying for insurance, when you try to use your insurance, the company will refuse your claim and declares the policy null and void. For example, theoretically, if you don't disclose even the smallest details (e.g. that you had a chest x-ray done 10 years ago that did not show any abnormality), and then you get something completely unrelated, like getting stabbed during your travel and have to go to the hospital, the insurance company can and will refuse to pay out. It's ridiculous. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/retired-couple-billed-50-000-despite-travel-insurance-1.1056603 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/retired-coup... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hefty-medical-bills-rejected-by-travel-insurance-firms-1.1407701 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hefty-medica...
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  It does depend on the province. In Québec some travel medical care is covered by the state.
  - smnrchrds 5y ago
    Technically yes, but practically no. The difference between paying nothing out of a 100k hospital bill and paying 1k out of a 100k hospital bill is approximately the whole bill. > We reimburse, at pre-set rates, the cost of hospital services received as a result of a sudden illness or an accident, as follows: > * a maximum of CA$100 per day for hospitalization > * up to CA$50 per day for healthcare received at a hospital outpatient clinic At those rate, I wouldn't even bother submitting the forms to RAMQ for reimbursement. https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/citizens/absence-quebec/know-which-services-are-covered-outside-quebec https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/citizens/absence-quebec/know-...
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      Actually in most of the world this is not so bad at all. It's insufficient in the US or many third world countries, but if I were to fall ill in, say, Africa or South East Asia (+China) it would be pretty good.
Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
I hope your brother is doing well and the law you mentioned clearly shows your Govt.'s attitude to protect the rights of insured over corporate profits; Congratulations for making that happen. Here, I'm 100% certain that those who have significant per-existing illness have lied about it to get their policy. But the thing is, I feel the insurers want us to lie so as to deny the claim. That's why I didn't lie about my per-existing illness to any of the insurers and so got my policy rejected by a clerks based on a business policy, not science.

by plafl 5y ago

smnrchrds 5y ago

That's a nice law. In Canada, most aspects of medical insurance are single payer, but other aspects (like out-of-country travel medical insurance) give too much latitude to the insurance companies. If you make any false statement when applying for insurance, when you try to use your insurance, the company will refuse your claim and declares the policy null and void. For example, theoretically, if you don't disclose even the smallest details (e.g. that you had a chest x-ray done 10 years ago that did not show any abnormality), and then you get something completely unrelated, like getting stabbed during your travel and have to go to the hospital, the insurance company can and will refuse to pay out. It's ridiculous. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/retired-couple-billed-50-000-despite-travel-insurance-1.1056603 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/retired-coup... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hefty-medical-bills-rejected-by-travel-insurance-firms-1.1407701 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hefty-medica...

sudosysgen 5y ago
It does depend on the province. In Québec some travel medical care is covered by the state.
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  Technically yes, but practically no. The difference between paying nothing out of a 100k hospital bill and paying 1k out of a 100k hospital bill is approximately the whole bill. > We reimburse, at pre-set rates, the cost of hospital services received as a result of a sudden illness or an accident, as follows: > * a maximum of CA$100 per day for hospitalization > * up to CA$50 per day for healthcare received at a hospital outpatient clinic At those rate, I wouldn't even bother submitting the forms to RAMQ for reimbursement. https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/citizens/absence-quebec/know-which-services-are-covered-outside-quebec https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/citizens/absence-quebec/know-...
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    Actually in most of the world this is not so bad at all. It's insufficient in the US or many third world countries, but if I were to fall ill in, say, Africa or South East Asia (+China) it would be pretty good.

Abishek_Muthian 5y ago

I hope your brother is doing well and the law you mentioned clearly shows your Govt.'s attitude to protect the rights of insured over corporate profits; Congratulations for making that happen. Here, I'm 100% certain that those who have significant per-existing illness have lied about it to get their policy. But the thing is, I feel the insurers want us to lie so as to deny the claim. That's why I didn't lie about my per-existing illness to any of the insurers and so got my policy rejected by a clerks based on a business policy, not science.