> Taste is a proxy for nutrition Please explain ketchup > Murdering people is bad not because of some abstract causing of pain Let’s just say it’s not, pain

> Taste is a proxy for nutrition Please explain ketchup > Murdering people is bad not because of some abstract causing of pain Let’s just say it’s not, pain and suffering are still bad things youd want to minimize You could say that the bad thing about death isn’t pain itself but the lost of life (otherwise an instant death would not be bad), based on the axiom that life is a good thing. You could also make your own axiom that only human lives are good. > murder begets murder, making existence of organized society very hard and inefficient So massacring uncivilized tribals that are not part of your organized society, like in the colonial days, is OK?