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> So either your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations, or you are indeed mistaken. I'm obviously not going to be mistaken about my own car, am I? http

> So either your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations, or you are indeed mistaken. I'm obviously not going to be mistaken about my own car, am I? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender#2012_updates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender#2012_updat... Selling as late as 2016 with no air bags, in many Western first-world nations, obviously including such as the UK where it was built, but I think also France, Germany, etc. In fact they even specifically say: > However, safety regulations due for introduction in 2015 requiring minimum pedestrian safety standards and the fitment of airbags to commercial vehicles cannot be met without a wholesale redesign of the Defender. Another source. https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/land-rover/defender/sports-utility-vehicle/11588/review/reliability https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/land-rover/defender/sport... Which says: > it was never fitted with any airbags

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chrisseaton 5y ago
defaultname we can see when you write comments and then delete them, you know. And we can see when you edit your comments, because I already quoted them. The original claim you wrote 'So either your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations, or you are indeed mistaken.' is clearly false.
- defaultname 5y ago
  How bizarre. I deleted my final comment because I realized it is ridiculous that it has gone this deep. But here we are. It's funny that you bring up editing, because the single thing I was replying to was your original claim that your airbag-less vehicle was the same model they sold "everywhere" (which you later edited because of course the vehicle was illegal in a number of nations). I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009. If I edited a comment, I made it more accurate immediately, and it's incredibly strange that you think you've caught me out. I truly don't care about your strange retro vehicle. But in this conversation it is so hilariously irrelevant to the context.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    > your airbag-less vehicle was the same model they sold "everywhere" Yeah everywhere they sold the Defender, they sold it without airbags. That's always what I said, and it's true. > I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009 You said 'your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations'. This a demonstrably untrue statement, because it was sold in at least the UK.

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chrisseaton 5y ago

defaultname we can see when you write comments and then delete them, you know. And we can see when you edit your comments, because I already quoted them. The original claim you wrote 'So either your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations, or you are indeed mistaken.' is clearly false.

defaultname 5y ago
How bizarre. I deleted my final comment because I realized it is ridiculous that it has gone this deep. But here we are. It's funny that you bring up editing, because the single thing I was replying to was your original claim that your airbag-less vehicle was the same model they sold "everywhere" (which you later edited because of course the vehicle was illegal in a number of nations). I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009. If I edited a comment, I made it more accurate immediately, and it's incredibly strange that you think you've caught me out. I truly don't care about your strange retro vehicle. But in this conversation it is so hilariously irrelevant to the context.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > your airbag-less vehicle was the same model they sold "everywhere" Yeah everywhere they sold the Defender, they sold it without airbags. That's always what I said, and it's true. > I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009 You said 'your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations'. This a demonstrably untrue statement, because it was sold in at least the UK.