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Who are the people who still dream of careers? I don't know any.

by curation 5y ago

alisonkisk 5y ago
Young ambitious people.
- asdev 5y ago
  Young ambitious people are starting companies, not going corporate.
  - SilurianWenlock 5y ago
    How hard is it to become competent at full stack development without working for someone else first?
f6v 5y ago
> Who are the people who still dream of careers? Those who like the paycheck attached to a career. 1 million in stock over 5 years is a good deal.
benrbray 5y ago
For me, I'm not quite ready to give up on the dream having a job that I actually enjoy. I'm still young, so effort I put into my career now will pay dividends for the rest of my life. Giving up the most productive hours of my day to a company is a big deal, and I'd at least like the job to be intellectually stimulating, if not financially rewarding. At this stage in my life, showing up at work just for the paychecks seems like giving up on a brighter future.
hinkley 5y ago
Despite ballooning tuitions, software development is still a career that people of modest means can aspire to. That we don’t talk about it more here I think says something about how you only talk about escaping in certain company. You can’t pass for upper class if people know where you come from.
jwilber 5y ago
Oh man, these “I don’t dream of labor” types are so fucking cringe, lol. Also condescending! A close friend of mine beat cancer as a child. Ever since then he’s dreamed of working in oncology, and is finishing school just this year. He’s very excited, and I’m happy to see his career goals coming to fruition. Other examples abound. I find, in my social circle anyway, the type who ask, “who dreams of careers?” are usually the type to have had cushy upbringings that afford them the ability to ignore dreaming of finding stable, well-paying careers. Let alone the mission-style careers I described earlier. Must be nice. In any case, I’ve worked on teams in both Amazon and AWS. Have not experienced the described culture. However, I’ve only ever worked in science roles/orgs, and I hear the difference between science and software (particularly product) can be quite stark. As others have mentioned: most variation is based on your manager and skip-level manager.
- approxim8ion 5y ago
  Finding stable, well paying careers is more of a means to an end. I think some in this group of people (myself included) are closer to the "I don't dream of labor" type than the "mission style careers" type. That said, I am open to changing my view and don't resent anyone who has found a mission worth working towards.
nkohari 5y ago
Hi, I'm Nate. Nice to meet you.

Who are the people who still dream of careers? I don't know any.

alisonkisk 5y ago

Young ambitious people.

asdev 5y ago
Young ambitious people are starting companies, not going corporate.
- SilurianWenlock 5y ago
  How hard is it to become competent at full stack development without working for someone else first?

f6v 5y ago

> Who are the people who still dream of careers? Those who like the paycheck attached to a career. 1 million in stock over 5 years is a good deal.

benrbray 5y ago

For me, I'm not quite ready to give up on the dream having a job that I actually enjoy. I'm still young, so effort I put into my career now will pay dividends for the rest of my life. Giving up the most productive hours of my day to a company is a big deal, and I'd at least like the job to be intellectually stimulating, if not financially rewarding. At this stage in my life, showing up at work just for the paychecks seems like giving up on a brighter future.

hinkley 5y ago

Despite ballooning tuitions, software development is still a career that people of modest means can aspire to. That we don’t talk about it more here I think says something about how you only talk about escaping in certain company. You can’t pass for upper class if people know where you come from.

jwilber 5y ago

Oh man, these “I don’t dream of labor” types are so fucking cringe, lol. Also condescending! A close friend of mine beat cancer as a child. Ever since then he’s dreamed of working in oncology, and is finishing school just this year. He’s very excited, and I’m happy to see his career goals coming to fruition. Other examples abound. I find, in my social circle anyway, the type who ask, “who dreams of careers?” are usually the type to have had cushy upbringings that afford them the ability to ignore dreaming of finding stable, well-paying careers. Let alone the mission-style careers I described earlier. Must be nice. In any case, I’ve worked on teams in both Amazon and AWS. Have not experienced the described culture. However, I’ve only ever worked in science roles/orgs, and I hear the difference between science and software (particularly product) can be quite stark. As others have mentioned: most variation is based on your manager and skip-level manager.

approxim8ion 5y ago
Finding stable, well paying careers is more of a means to an end. I think some in this group of people (myself included) are closer to the "I don't dream of labor" type than the "mission style careers" type. That said, I am open to changing my view and don't resent anyone who has found a mission worth working towards.

nkohari 5y ago

Hi, I'm Nate. Nice to meet you.