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Simple we just need more states passing the same law, time to start the Internet campaign.
by watertom 5y ago
Simple we just need more states passing the same law, time to start the Internet campaign.
- TigeriusKirk 5y agoJust get California to pass it and resistance becomes untenable.
- novok 5y agocalifornia already has had a salary range law for a while, dont know the details but if youre applying locally it definitely applies.
- sgarland 5y agoWhen I applied to my CA-based company remotely, I asked for the range, and they gave it to me. Not sure if that's the law, or was just a courtesy.
- novok 5y agoFrom what I've seen after research, they have to give it to you if your reporting into the California part of the company. Also if something becomes law in a significant place of the company, they often just make it a general company policy unless they really don't like the law.
- sneak 5y agoWhy do you wish to enshrine compelled speech into law?
- groby_b 5y agoBecause markets are distorted by unequal access to information.
- ethbr0 5y agoFor the same reason we require businesses to serve anyone, regardless of race, color, religion, or national origin. The social benefits outweigh the harms.
- ectopod 5y agoBusinesses are not literally people. Treating a business as a legal person is sometimes convenient, but there is no reason to cling to this fiction in all circumstances.
- dalbasal 5y agoEven if they are, is salary range disclosure "compelled speech?" Businesses, including sole traders, must disclose their revenue to tax men. They might need to disclose contact details, address, packing dates, product origin...
- sneak 5y agoBusinesses cannot speak or write though, only people can.
- Drakim 5y agoWe compel businesses to all kinds of speech, for instance, they have to specify what kinds of ingredients their products contain, and their nutritional value. Regular everyday people are allowed to lie in their private lives if they wish, but try lying in an advertisement and see how it goes. There are strict rules on what you may or may not say as a business.
- hippyup 5y agoThere's a huge difference between compelling not lying vs compelling disclosure. We do require disclosure in some cases like in the ingredient example you mention, but even the it's limited to what's necessary: companies don't have to disclose exact recipes and can hide a lot behind the "flavorings" label for example. I'm not sure if forcing disclosure in this case is good, but I do like keeping a high bar on that in general.
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- elliekelly 5y agoJust about any law can be boiled down to “compelled speech” or a restraint on speech if you twist it enough. Actions are speech. Murder is an action. Criminalizing murder is criminalizing speech. Likewise, wearing a seatbelt is an action so requiring seatbelts is compelled speech. And words are speech, too. So requiring car owners display their license plate is compelled speech.
- trainsplanes 5y agoPosting a salary/pay range is no different than posting a job position and a location. No plumber in Indiana wants to apply to a job that ends up being an opening for a brain surgeon in Botswana. Why should companies be able to waste time with wages that are below what applicants are looking for and only tell them after the seventh stage of interviews? It’s disproportionately advantageous for corporations.
- KoftaBob 5y agoIn order to bring the job market closer to "perfect competition", thereby making it more efficient. One of the features of perfect competition is "perfect information": "In economics, perfect information (sometimes referred to as "no hidden information") is a feature of perfect competition. With perfect information in a market, all consumers and producers have perfect and instantaneous knowledge of all market prices, their own utility, and own cost functions."