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I don't see how that follows. If you're making a slippery slope argument - the answer is that there is a difference between a private school with administratio

I don't see how that follows. If you're making a slippery slope argument - the answer is that there is a difference between a private school with administration, dedicated real estate and staff teaching 100s of kids, and people keeping their kids home to teach them themselves. If it's a semantic argument, that homeschooling is a form of non-public and therefore private education, by private schools I specifically mean the large institutions. I doubt homeschooled people would say that they went to private school. If it's a legal argument - a blanket ban on private schools would have impact on homeschooling in California - that's likely true, but I'm not suggesting how a law would be written, just the result of the law.

muyuu 5y ago
at best you'd move the threshold to remove yourself from the system a little higher, from those paying top dollar private schools to those who can hire tutors and/or have one of the parents dedicated to tutoring there's no effective way to ban private tutoring in the sense and effect of this thread that doesn't also involve banning homeschooling edit: or simply send the kids abroad, the classic rich-person-in-failed-society way
- mindvirus 5y ago
  I'm not seeing this connection that you and others are making between private schools and tutoring or homeschooling. When I say private schools, I mean it in the sense most people think of private schools: large institutions requiring applications, charging tuition and hiring teachers not related to the students, not "any form of education not provided publicly". I don't think homeschooling fits this definition. The point is to move the bar for removing yourself higher - systems are complicated, there are no perfect solutions. Of course, people will always find a way - at the very least, they can move to another country. Right now though a significant number of people opt out of the public system and I think that's a huge problem.
  - muyuu 5y ago
    I don't think that bar shift is enough in America - in America, the super-rich control and fund politics, it's not Finland; you're just condemning the kids of the slightly better off to a terrible education and to have it worse than their parents, which is already happening in housing
  - zepto 5y ago
    > The point is to move the bar for removing yourself higher No, the point was to make the people with the power to do something about it be forced to use public schools. Just moving the bar a bit higher would have no such effect. > Right now though a significant number of people opt out of the public system and I think that's a huge problem. Why? What’s wrong with thinking the public school system is bad (which it obviously is) and doing something better for you child?

muyuu 5y ago

at best you'd move the threshold to remove yourself from the system a little higher, from those paying top dollar private schools to those who can hire tutors and/or have one of the parents dedicated to tutoring there's no effective way to ban private tutoring in the sense and effect of this thread that doesn't also involve banning homeschooling edit: or simply send the kids abroad, the classic rich-person-in-failed-society way

mindvirus 5y ago
I'm not seeing this connection that you and others are making between private schools and tutoring or homeschooling. When I say private schools, I mean it in the sense most people think of private schools: large institutions requiring applications, charging tuition and hiring teachers not related to the students, not "any form of education not provided publicly". I don't think homeschooling fits this definition. The point is to move the bar for removing yourself higher - systems are complicated, there are no perfect solutions. Of course, people will always find a way - at the very least, they can move to another country. Right now though a significant number of people opt out of the public system and I think that's a huge problem.
- muyuu 5y ago
  I don't think that bar shift is enough in America - in America, the super-rich control and fund politics, it's not Finland; you're just condemning the kids of the slightly better off to a terrible education and to have it worse than their parents, which is already happening in housing
- zepto 5y ago
  > The point is to move the bar for removing yourself higher No, the point was to make the people with the power to do something about it be forced to use public schools. Just moving the bar a bit higher would have no such effect. > Right now though a significant number of people opt out of the public system and I think that's a huge problem. Why? What’s wrong with thinking the public school system is bad (which it obviously is) and doing something better for you child?