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These don't work and never have. We have 20 years on this. I get in the 90's it would have seemed like a quick win. But it didn't work. This inability to move

These don't work and never have. We have 20 years on this. I get in the 90's it would have seemed like a quick win. But it didn't work. This inability to move on is frustrating. If you care , which most people don't. But if you do, what you want on them is porn and copyright TV. If you don't understand why I can't really help you, it's a pretty simple idea. You can't do that obviously, so how do you do it by proxy? That is the solution to find. One simple idea, find places without internet, find a cafe and sell them Starlink. You charity sets it up for free, they pay something per month. Report what happens. I'd bet it'd be very cost effective. Unfortunately it is boring and people don't get to feel good about themselves, so it won't get funded, so perhaps it's just as dumb.

tyingq 5y ago
I'm confused by this comment. They cite examples of it working. Similar setups have been working in Cuba for a long time. What isn't working? Are you just saying that actual free internet access would be better? Sure, that's true, but not practical everywhere.
- aaron695 5y ago
  > Similar setups have been working in Cuba for a long time. Official Sneakernet is terrabytes of TV (Government 'sanctioned' without porn or politics) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal If this is what it is, then I'm totally wrong. This is a really good idea. A wireless hotspot, anyone can setup to distribute terabytes of material to others, preferably with a charge/login option. Years ago we did this with a wireless access point 'Login for free movies" in our apartment. But couldn't (at the time) work out an easy way to distribute the AVI's once randoms connected. Wikipedia not clear IIAB is this and I didn't see it from the web site - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box To do this, what's vital is cafe owners and teachers and students can buy this product and easily dump stuff on. A movies section, comics section, a books section they can make pretty, they need ownership in their collations. Their FAQ is on OLPC's site which had a horrific attitude of not allowing others to use their products and locking them down. Once you pay someone to set IIAB up, giving them Starlink would be around the same price. IIAB has to be open and easy to buy. > They cite examples of it working Where? The Dominican Republic video was 4 years ago. Is it up and running? These things are easy to send in a team for and have running for a few months. I would be surprised if one was running for more than a year without an expat there.
Ensorceled 5y ago
Yes, what very, very poor rural schools and hospitals in the heart of Africa really want is porn and not access to teaching aids and medical databases.
- aaron695 5y ago
  What's an example medical database they could and would want to setup and will IIAB run those services?
  - Ensorceled 5y ago
    It’s literally in the article: > See Mexico's live demo and these medical examples used by clinics in Asia and Africa especially, as hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation (Wikipedia).
    - aaron695 5y ago
      What is the medical database called? They have a lot of flat garbage that if you really want you can just put on your phone, I can see those. A database (For Africa as you mention) is a big deal, it's queryable store of info. It's rare to see these open source (or CC) Does it use MySql? MSAccess? How hard is it to set up? I don't think they will have any. Databases need to be updated, it's easier to add 4G if they are needed. Chemwatch did a pretty good setup with CD that did the 3 month updates. In the developed world is still ran into problems with being up to date enough, I think most would be online now. And it cost money because it's a hard thing to do. You can't just say, they will 'run datavbases on the IIAB' That's an ongoing commitment that needs to be supported. Else it becomes another bricked device in the NGO graveyard.
      - Ensorceled 5y ago
        Are you arguing with me or or the article? I'm not a doctor, I can't review the databases they include. Have you read the article? It has links.

tyingq 5y ago

I'm confused by this comment. They cite examples of it working. Similar setups have been working in Cuba for a long time. What isn't working? Are you just saying that actual free internet access would be better? Sure, that's true, but not practical everywhere.

aaron695 5y ago
> Similar setups have been working in Cuba for a long time. Official Sneakernet is terrabytes of TV (Government 'sanctioned' without porn or politics) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal If this is what it is, then I'm totally wrong. This is a really good idea. A wireless hotspot, anyone can setup to distribute terabytes of material to others, preferably with a charge/login option. Years ago we did this with a wireless access point 'Login for free movies" in our apartment. But couldn't (at the time) work out an easy way to distribute the AVI's once randoms connected. Wikipedia not clear IIAB is this and I didn't see it from the web site - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box To do this, what's vital is cafe owners and teachers and students can buy this product and easily dump stuff on. A movies section, comics section, a books section they can make pretty, they need ownership in their collations. Their FAQ is on OLPC's site which had a horrific attitude of not allowing others to use their products and locking them down. Once you pay someone to set IIAB up, giving them Starlink would be around the same price. IIAB has to be open and easy to buy. > They cite examples of it working Where? The Dominican Republic video was 4 years ago. Is it up and running? These things are easy to send in a team for and have running for a few months. I would be surprised if one was running for more than a year without an expat there.

Ensorceled 5y ago

Yes, what very, very poor rural schools and hospitals in the heart of Africa really want is porn and not access to teaching aids and medical databases.

aaron695 5y ago
What's an example medical database they could and would want to setup and will IIAB run those services?
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  It’s literally in the article: > See Mexico's live demo and these medical examples used by clinics in Asia and Africa especially, as hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation (Wikipedia).
  - aaron695 5y ago
    What is the medical database called? They have a lot of flat garbage that if you really want you can just put on your phone, I can see those. A database (For Africa as you mention) is a big deal, it's queryable store of info. It's rare to see these open source (or CC) Does it use MySql? MSAccess? How hard is it to set up? I don't think they will have any. Databases need to be updated, it's easier to add 4G if they are needed. Chemwatch did a pretty good setup with CD that did the 3 month updates. In the developed world is still ran into problems with being up to date enough, I think most would be online now. And it cost money because it's a hard thing to do. You can't just say, they will 'run datavbases on the IIAB' That's an ongoing commitment that needs to be supported. Else it becomes another bricked device in the NGO graveyard.
    - Ensorceled 5y ago
      Are you arguing with me or or the article? I'm not a doctor, I can't review the databases they include. Have you read the article? It has links.