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My #1 match was an account[1] banned for "posting unsubstantive comments and repeatedly breaking the guidelines". Now, I may be biased, but I don't think that's

My #1 match was an account[1] banned for "posting unsubstantive comments and repeatedly breaking the guidelines". Now, I may be biased, but I don't think that's accurate :v 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=franciscrick1 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=franciscrick1

ur-whale 5y ago
Think of minority report and it'll all become clear.
technologia 5y ago
I got a bunch of empty accounts and one startup launch post. Not sure how that qualifies as a doppelgänger
Sr_developer 5y ago
I was not banned, my old account was simply shadow-banned. I had high karma fwiw , but I criticized PG. I think that was too much.
- dang 5y ago
  That is doubtful. We don't shadowban established accounts: we tell them why we're banning them and why: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20banned&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Shadowbanning on HN, at least for the last 7 years, has been reserved for spammers and serial trolls. It's possible that we made a mistake and neglected to tell you, but it's far more likely that we did tell you. We don't ban people for criticizing PG, as anyone can easily see for themselves by using HN Search or looking at any recent thread from paulgraham.com. If you're going to make a claim about why you think you were banned, you should provide a link so readers can make up their own minds. When it comes to "I was banned" stories, people say all kinds of things, most of which don't hold up against the actual record.
  - Sr_developer 5y ago
    Here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26656133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26656133 You banned me 2 days after the comment for saying that YC can be as or more exploitative than China's deals with African countries and I said that the parent defending YC but condemning China was acting on a base of racism and ethnocentrism. You can see how he brought a bunch of low-quality links I refuted them and you came 2 days later(I just realized that now) and banned me. Oh well, I suppose you will be ban me again. BB cannot be criticized.
    - brudgers 5y ago
      A comment about an account being banned in the linked thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 Not sure it is applicable since the linked comment’s author does not appear to be banned.
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    - dang 5y ago
      That doesn't link to a banned account. I assume you mean this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26659584 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26659584. We told you we were banning you in that very thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745. Comments like "I must conclude you are a dumb person letting his latent racism to take over or you are aware you are acting on bad faith and you just dont care" are obviously against the rules here and have nothing to do with PG, YC, China, or any particular topic. Moreover, we'd warned you and asked you may times to follow the site guidelines before that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127670 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127670 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25637111 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25637111 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25400449 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25400449 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24513786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24513786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23087338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23087338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18102477 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18102477 If you break the rules that often and ignore that many warnings, it's not surprising that you'd end up getting banned. This was not a shadowban and not because you criticized some particular person. All this is a pity because you posted many interesting comments in the past and we would much rather have you as a contributing user. The sad truth, though, is that the harm you cause by breaking the site guidelines exceeds the good you contribute with the interesting comments—so I don't think we made the wrong call.
starkd 5y ago
I have to agree. Nothing stood out as being any way similar. It's hard to tell what their measure of similarity is here. This might be a case of let's just throw the data in, and see what comes out.
- runawaybottle 5y ago
  It caught users that use my style of dumping a ‘in line rhetorical saying’ in their posts. It’s not terrible, you’d have to laugh honestly at how predictable you are. I’m gonna marry one of my doppelgängers.
brudgers 5y ago
I suspect most HN accounts are low Karma. Considering how often I see throw aways, probably by several orders of magnitude. Relying solely on co-sign similarity, every vector is likely to be surrounded by the vectors of low karma accounts. Or no matter which direction you travel from earth, you will almost certainly be surrounded by vacuum.
- Retric 5y ago
  I don’t think it’s that random. Out of the top 5 accounts I was linked to 4 where over 8k, and 2 where over 20k karma.
  - brudgers 5y ago
    Look at dang's top five matches.
- qubex 5y ago
  Aren’t the population statistics of the NH karma distribution known? Histogram, percentiles…
47 5y ago
I think it is correct as Doppelgänger are supposed to be the evil version of oneself.
- ant6n 5y ago
  Username checks out https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/47 https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/47
jjcc 5y ago
I did the search on my self trying to find similar souls share the passion about Godel theorem, viewing the current carbon-based civilization from the views of silicon-based civilization or the alien's, functional programming... But none of them are even close. This #1 match has some views I'm totally not familiar with but I have an opportunity (which I appreciated) to understand other views In my opinion, this service doesn't have a good S/N ratio. Could give you irrelevant information.
- DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
  perhaps your interests are really unique ;)
  - srean 5y ago
    With high enough dimension, almost everyone is.
proactivesvcs 5y ago
I'm guessing they came down on the wrong side of belts vs. bots?

ur-whale 5y ago

Think of minority report and it'll all become clear.

technologia 5y ago

I got a bunch of empty accounts and one startup launch post. Not sure how that qualifies as a doppelgänger

Sr_developer 5y ago

I was not banned, my old account was simply shadow-banned. I had high karma fwiw , but I criticized PG. I think that was too much.

dang 5y ago
That is doubtful. We don't shadowban established accounts: we tell them why we're banning them and why: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20banned&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Shadowbanning on HN, at least for the last 7 years, has been reserved for spammers and serial trolls. It's possible that we made a mistake and neglected to tell you, but it's far more likely that we did tell you. We don't ban people for criticizing PG, as anyone can easily see for themselves by using HN Search or looking at any recent thread from paulgraham.com. If you're going to make a claim about why you think you were banned, you should provide a link so readers can make up their own minds. When it comes to "I was banned" stories, people say all kinds of things, most of which don't hold up against the actual record.
- Sr_developer 5y ago
  Here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26656133 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26656133 You banned me 2 days after the comment for saying that YC can be as or more exploitative than China's deals with African countries and I said that the parent defending YC but condemning China was acting on a base of racism and ethnocentrism. You can see how he brought a bunch of low-quality links I refuted them and you came 2 days later(I just realized that now) and banned me. Oh well, I suppose you will be ban me again. BB cannot be criticized.
  - brudgers 5y ago
    A comment about an account being banned in the linked thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 Not sure it is applicable since the linked comment’s author does not appear to be banned.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - dang 5y ago
    That doesn't link to a banned account. I assume you mean this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26659584 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26659584. We told you we were banning you in that very thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678745. Comments like "I must conclude you are a dumb person letting his latent racism to take over or you are aware you are acting on bad faith and you just dont care" are obviously against the rules here and have nothing to do with PG, YC, China, or any particular topic. Moreover, we'd warned you and asked you may times to follow the site guidelines before that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127670 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127670 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25637111 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25637111 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25400449 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25400449 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24513786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24513786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23087338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23087338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18102477 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18102477 If you break the rules that often and ignore that many warnings, it's not surprising that you'd end up getting banned. This was not a shadowban and not because you criticized some particular person. All this is a pity because you posted many interesting comments in the past and we would much rather have you as a contributing user. The sad truth, though, is that the harm you cause by breaking the site guidelines exceeds the good you contribute with the interesting comments—so I don't think we made the wrong call.

starkd 5y ago

I have to agree. Nothing stood out as being any way similar. It's hard to tell what their measure of similarity is here. This might be a case of let's just throw the data in, and see what comes out.

runawaybottle 5y ago
It caught users that use my style of dumping a ‘in line rhetorical saying’ in their posts. It’s not terrible, you’d have to laugh honestly at how predictable you are. I’m gonna marry one of my doppelgängers.

brudgers 5y ago

I suspect most HN accounts are low Karma. Considering how often I see throw aways, probably by several orders of magnitude. Relying solely on co-sign similarity, every vector is likely to be surrounded by the vectors of low karma accounts. Or no matter which direction you travel from earth, you will almost certainly be surrounded by vacuum.

Retric 5y ago
I don’t think it’s that random. Out of the top 5 accounts I was linked to 4 where over 8k, and 2 where over 20k karma.
- brudgers 5y ago
  Look at dang's top five matches.
qubex 5y ago
Aren’t the population statistics of the NH karma distribution known? Histogram, percentiles…

47 5y ago

I think it is correct as Doppelgänger are supposed to be the evil version of oneself.

ant6n 5y ago
Username checks out https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/47 https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/47

jjcc 5y ago

I did the search on my self trying to find similar souls share the passion about Godel theorem, viewing the current carbon-based civilization from the views of silicon-based civilization or the alien's, functional programming... But none of them are even close. This #1 match has some views I'm totally not familiar with but I have an opportunity (which I appreciated) to understand other views In my opinion, this service doesn't have a good S/N ratio. Could give you irrelevant information.

DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
perhaps your interests are really unique ;)
- srean 5y ago
  With high enough dimension, almost everyone is.

proactivesvcs 5y ago

I'm guessing they came down on the wrong side of belts vs. bots?