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probably the latter. It's the same low effort style. Here's the most succinct crash course in comedy I know of https://misterandyriley.com/2016/10/31/how-to-ta
by kristopolous 5y ago
probably the latter. It's the same low effort style. Here's the most succinct crash course in comedy I know of https://misterandyriley.com/2016/10/31/how-to-talk-comedy-writer-updated/ https://misterandyriley.com/2016/10/31/how-to-talk-comedy-wr...
In this article the biggest sin is this one:
"Bananas on Bananas – similar to Jazz Trumpetry. Trying to top a punchline with another punchline right after it, and another, and another. Sometimes this might be great – but when it’s not, and the result is just tiring to watch/read/listen to, then you’ve got Bananas on Bananas. [via James Bachman and Simon Blackwell]" and its relative: "Hat On A Hat – this is in very common use in the USA, and has a similar yet subtly different meaning to ‘Two Sock.’ A Hat On A Hat is an occasion where two funny things are happening at the same moment in the script, or immediately adjacent moments, and those two comic ideas are each distracting from the other. The solution is normally simple: remove one of them."
People like to think that comedy is a matter of opinion. That's totally false - it's the originator of audience testing and a/b testing.
Starting in vaudeville performers would carefully study slight modifications to their routine and the audience reaction to them. Every comedian with a repeatable act learns what works and what doesn't. They cut/add/tweak/rearrange.
You can clearly see this in early versus later work of your favorite standup. The maturation of everyone's routine follow the same general comedy rules of what stays and goes. It's a describable teachable learnable repeatable skill. It's the reason that lots of successful comedians come out of the groundlings and ucb.
It's not a matter of opinion, there's decades of quantified research on this stuff. The OP article if it just followed basic comedy rules and structure would become immensely better.
- codingdave 5y agoBlog posts != standup. There may be structure to comedy, but that does not mean that there are dogmatic rules that apply to all mediums and all audiences. Expecting anyone to study and follow the techniques that have been developed for a successful standup routine, and then use them when writing up a blog post is somewhat absurd.
- kristopolous 5y agoIt's not just for standup. It's also true for sitcoms, same rules. Live performances are the ones where measurable data exists. People do room reads for written content to test it. It's not all arbitrary
- dcminter 5y agoYou know how if you have to explain the joke it's not funny? If you have to explain why it's not funny ... "It's not a matter of opinion" really? Says the joke crime commission? Oh wait, there isn't one, because humour is always a matter of opinion.
- kristopolous 5y agoAnd so is taste in food, fashion, photography, interior design, music, writing. Some things are generally agreed on though. Food shouldn't be poisonous, interior design shouldn't block doorways, music shouldn't damage hearing, comedy shouldn't make people run to the car to get their gun. There's rules for everything.